I LOVE 'Em!! J'Dez Underkilts

[Riverkilt]

Wow! Men, THIS is what we've been talking about on various threads for a LONG time. The J'Dez people did it.

http://www.jdez.com/men/underkilt/

Just got three of them in. Bought the black ones. I'd been wearing my blue denim Utilikilt regimental this morning. Picked the underkilts up at the post office around noon. Put one on at home at lunch. What a difference. Suddenly the denim isn't denim against my skin its soft organic cotton against my skin.

What they did was take organic cotton t-shirt type material sew it together (there's a serged seam down each outside leg area) and put elastic like on jockey shorts around the waist.

This works! I remember some of you guys worried about a "skirty" look...with this comfort WHO CARES!!??

I'm already wearing them just to knock around in at home.

Only downsides I can see so far...the wait...took a couple weeks longer than originally expected, but we're all used to jonesing. Woulda been faster if I'd stayed with the white. They send the black out to be died.

No good alone if you're gonna sit down...your package is gonna show, they're meant for comfort and sanitation rather than modesty.

I'm used to my narrow UK apron dropping between my knees when I sit. With the underkilt the narrow UK apron is kinda held up a bit like with a large apron kilt. Not a hard adjustment.

I like these things. They are well made. No scrimping on quality.

Have a pic on page 6 of my gallery. My first effort at self-portrait and I'm glaring at the camera wondering if it will work right and my massive belly has lapped over the top of the underkilt...and its black....so in the pic it looks like a black miniskirt...

But the key to this deal is the COMFORT...the looks are hidden from the world under the kilt. Hiking in a UK workman's should take on a new level of comfort with an underkilt. I'm gonna feel better about going regimental in my expensive hand sewn traditional kilts from Kathy Lare.

Guys, this is what we've been looking for. No shill here, just one happy camper.

Ron

[Iolanthe]

Huh. Cool. My husband was just asking me to find out if something like this even existed. I'll have to tell him to come by and read your post.

[Graham]

Looks like a good idea, of course, it's nothing new. All the ladies know about such things, but something designed for men - that's good.

[auld argonian]

Saw these earlier in the L-O-N-G discussion that pretty much dissed them.

I figure: what the hell...this is pretty much freestyle anyway...and there doesn't seem to be much benefit in being uncomfortable so wear what you like.

But honestly...some of the participants really trashed the concept of these underkilts in that previous thread. Apparently if "Live free or die" is the motto of New Hampshire, "Hang loose or die" would be the motto of not a few of the Xmarks members!

But it seems to work pretty well from what you're saying here, so let's not count them out as a useful accessory!

best

AA

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

Ron,

Trend setting again? Looks good and thanks for being brave enough to order these, and let us know you were ordering, and give them a true review. Like others, I was somewhat put off by the "slip-like" pictures in the prior thread, but also could see the value, especially with a trad kilt.

A quick question though, where does the underkilt fall in relation to the kilt? It looks liks quite high enough to avoid one issue mentioned, which was comments regarding "your slip is showing". Not to get too personal, but does your normal "go to the office" attire allow/support regimental, or have you been going with the keep it modest approach? And if keeping it modest, would you change to the underkilt in that situation? Just curious because I enjoy regimental, but am concerned in the office. I was wondering if this might offer a nice alternative.

RJI

[millar]

ok where is Raphael? He started the last thread on these things. I just can't get over the whole slip thing. Ron glad you like them.

[davedove]

I just can't get over the whole slip thing.

Maybe if they're thought of as kilt protectors, the image may change. After all, since as was mentioned in another thread, we no longer have the extra long shirt tails to protect the inside of our kilts from "bodily soils", something like this would protect the major investment of a kilt. After all, I would rather spend $20 to replace one of these, than to spend $400+ to replace a tailored kilt. I do think the black would be the better product. I just can't get behind the white under the kilt.

[Riverkilt]

Good point Dave,

I'd rather throw one of these "kilt protectors" in the wash than risk turning my hand sewn traditional over to a dry cleaner....course I'm an old guy, and young men might not worry as much as an old sot like me...

And, KCW...not a problem. I've worn the kilt protector under my belly (as the pic so embarassingly shows) and its still about 4" above the hem of my kilt. And I wear my kilts mid knee or above. Hasn't been a problem sitting either. Just got back from an AA meeting. Blue denim UK apron dropped okay. I was concerned about that too, even ordered black just in case. Now that I've some field testing in think I'd be okay with white.

As far as the office just decided that the consequences for accidental exposure just weren't worth the risk. So compromise with tartan boxer shorts from WalMart....don't need the "kilt protector" since the boxers do the work.

Risk at the office is that I sit in a chair for a living. I still have old leg position habits from years of pants wearing. Might absentmindedly get cross legged. Also, our agency has lots of very young kids coming in with their parents. If one decided to "look up my address" wouldn't be cool. And the agency has exposed steps to the second floor and a catwalk visible to the lobby. Finally, this area is known as the windy mesa for the constant winds and our agency parking lot is on the edge of the mesa. Some strong winds could sneak up on me out there. Just makes more sense to be safe.

Also, since I'm seated so long that reduces the skin to cloth contact. If you read most camping advice books they advise against sleeping nekie in your sleeping bag to avoid body oils, dead skin etc. Guess its similar with sitting in a kilt for long periods.

As far as the softness, think of a well worn old cotton t-shirt...

This is a good deal men. I can see the day when it would become a standard kilt accessory.

Ron

[Southern Breeze]

I think it would be better to think of these as kilt liners or kilt protectors.I can see the logic behind them and like it.If they were availible in say polypropylene,you could wear a light weight or non wool kilt in winter.Insulated underwear for kilts.When they were brought up the last time they were associated with mens skirts and that pretty much doomed them.

[Freedomlover]

I notice that the Jdez folks repeatedly mention "organic" cotton. Is there any other kind?

Southern Breeze mentioned polypropylene for the obvious benefits. That's a great idea. I may go into the business. After all, a sewing machine is a power tool.