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25th July 06, 06:46 PM
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Pirate Kilts?
I was rereading some books on Pirates and 17th/18th century privateers and seafarers and noticed a comment made in passing in 2 separate books. It is a reference to a practice wherein sailors used old sail canvas to make a kilt at sea, as well as a version that had the crotch connected (some REALLY baggy shorts).
Has anyone ever heard of that before?
I know there are a number of historians/history buffs as well as sailors and naval buffs. I though some of ya'll that know more than I on this subject may inform me and the rest of us on this practice. I find it curious! It would also be a good historical basis for a canvas kilt (as well as a good excuse when asked about one in public-> The garmant of the Pirates and the Privateers).
Is this reference even true???
:confused:
Confused and curious,
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25th July 06, 06:52 PM
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Did they wear arrrrgyle socks with those?
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25th July 06, 06:59 PM
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The short, wide baggy trousers were called "petticoat breeches" or "slops." They were worn over knee-brecches to protect them from tar and other shipboard grime. Canvas aprons - not really kilts - were worn for the same purpose. Longer, less-wide, more typical looking trousers of sea-cloth were also worn instead of knee-breeches:
http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/basic_kit.htm
Last edited by Woodsheal; 25th July 06 at 07:05 PM.
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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25th July 06, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodsheal
The short, wide baggy trousers were called "petticoat breeches" or "slops." They were worn over knee-brecches to protect them from tar and other shipboard grime. Canvas aprons - not really kilts - were worn for the same purpose. Longer, less-wide, more typical looking trousers of sea-cloth were also worn instead of knee-breeches....
Canvas aprons, makes sense. Likely, the authors saw a picture of what looked like a skirt and said kilt to make it sound better. They did not realize that they were worn OVER other pants. I was curious about the refernce, it didn't ring right, but I just let it go. But, when I saw it again, I thought I would bring it here for the fount of (and bull) of the FORUM.
I couldn't remember the "correct" name for the "shorts," thanks. I also had not realized they were worn OVER knee-breeches.
I know they also wore hats, covered and dried in various "gunk" to make weather proof caps/hats.
Thanks again,
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25th July 06, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Southern Breeze
Did they wear arrrrgyle socks with those?
Now THAT'S funny!
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25th July 06, 08:28 PM
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26th July 06, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MacWage
I was rereading some books on Pirates and 17th/18th century privateers and seafarers and noticed a comment made in passing in 2 separate books. It is a reference to a practice wherein sailors used old sail canvas to make a kilt at sea, ...
Is this reference even true???
:confused:
Confused and curious,
aye- here's yin!
AAAARRRRGGGGGGGG!
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26th July 06, 04:51 AM
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September 19 in 54 days.
Cheers! Bill
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26th July 06, 06:19 AM
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A Menacing Figure Allright
P1M you do fit the kilted pirate quite well.
“Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, taste the fruit, drink the drink, and resign yourself to the influences of each.” H.D. Thoreau
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26th July 06, 06:20 AM
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SeaFair pirates
There is a tradition in Seattle, going all the way back to the mid 50's, of a summer festival called SeaFair. One of the customs for SeaFair is the SeaFair Pirates. And yes, I have seen several of the pirates in kilts (and usually wishing I hadn't.)
Therefore, it must be true that pirates wore kilts. Certainly the Seattle business and tourist industry wouldn't lie like that. :rolleyes:
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