Pleated to "BAR"

[Kilted Cole]

I recently came upon an article about having a kilt pleated to the "bar" I was just wondering if anyone knew what this was or even better had pics to post up for a visual refference. I wouldn't have e-mailed the person, but I can't seem to find the site where I last saw it.

[Tobus]

Just a guess, but I assume it's another way of saying pleated to the line, or pleated to the stripe. The author may have meant one of the thicker bars of colour in the sett (depending on the sett, of course).

[Kilted Cole]

Okay I think I found what they were getting at, searched all day,

[Kilted Cole]

Just a guess, but I assume it's another way of saying pleated to the line, or pleated to the stripe. The author may have meant one of the thicker bars of colour in the sett (depending on the sett, of course).

Thicker bars of color I think your correct. Thank you Tobus.

[Steve Ashton]

Each kiltmaker seems to like to use there own terms for stuff. We here on X Marks like to use the same terms but that is only us among the "Kilted Cognizanti"

The kilt in the photo is Isle of Skye pleated to the stripe but the stripe chosen is actually a color block of brown that has no prominent vertical stripe in the middle. It's still pleating to the stripe though.

The first IOS kilt that was pleated this way was probably done by Barb T. and she called it "Pleating to no stripe" just to give it a cool name.

Call it "To the stripe", "To no stripe", or "To the bar", it is actually the same thing.

[Kilted Cole]

Thank you soo very much Mr Ashton. That clears up a lot for me.

[Friday]

The first IOS kilt that was pleated this way was probably done by Barb T. and she called it "Pleating to no stripe" just to give it a cool name.

I vaguely remember hearing someone describing that style as the "lawn chair pleating." I can understand where that concept came from but I don't think that is fair to the look. But, then this group is not always known for being subtle in opinion.

[Steve Ashton]

The phrase is actually "The Dread Lawn Chair Effect".

Some Tartans are very suitable for pleating like this and some look horrible. Some Tartans, if they lack a strong vertical element when pleated to the stripe, leave you only the horizontal bands across your backside that look like you have been sitting in one of those awful plastic strip lawn chairs.

[RockyR]

I vaguely remember hearing someone describing that style as the "lawn chair pleating." I can understand where that concept came from but I don't think that is fair to the look. But, then this group is not always known for being subtle in opinion.

"The Lawn Chair Effect" is a term I coined back in 2004 when a customer insisted I pleat his kilt that way and I tried to explain my objection to it. He was the customer, so I made it as he wished, but didn't like it. And no, I've never been accused of being too subtle.

[MacMillans son]

Here's another visual Kilted Cole. This is the apron of my MacMillan Old Weathered kilt.



For a tradional pleating to the stripe the more typical choice would have been to the brown stripe centered in the yellow, as Steve pointed out, that stripe would have been a distinct vertical element centered in each pleat. A second variation would have been to the fuchsia stripe though it would not have a distinct vertical line in it, just a fairly consistent fuchsia bar. However, not wanting the rear of the kilt to be predominantly pink or yellow, I chose to tone it down by having it pleated to the brown bar thus...



Of course, there were are a few other possibilities, but you get the idea.

Most here are full of opinions (I certainly am ) and are readily available to provide input should you have a pleating option in mind that you are considering.