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28th April 13, 07:44 PM
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Pro and con of buckles..
I am at the stage of installing the stabilizer in my PV kilt..
Are there any advantages or dis, to 2 or 3 buckles and straps...
Would the stabilizer need to cover a greater area if using 3...
Are the buckles stitched through the combined thickness of the stabilizer and the Tailors lining
I am not privy yet to attaching photos, but soon........ Philip
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28th April 13, 09:41 PM
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Sir,
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28th April 13, 11:21 PM
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Thanks for the info, Steve... I wrongly assumed that was one of the privileges withheld till I became of age...
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28th April 13, 11:25 PM
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This is the old family hand-me down....
It has seen major shrinkage since I last wore it , about 18yrs.. Philip
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28th April 13, 11:30 PM
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This is the work in progress, awaiting some comment and direction..
It is draped over the oldy , for company....Philip
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29th April 13, 03:34 AM
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The historians here at xmts will tell you to go with two buckles. The third was a civilian adaptation of tbe extra high waisted military style of wearing tbe kilt. In the military sthle the third buckle sat were the to right-side one does.
As the civilian kilts sit wat tbe natural waist not above it, the third buck only pulls and hinders the movement of the kilt. Best to leave it out.
-Nik
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29th April 13, 04:30 AM
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What Nik says, a great summation of the issue!
On me, a kilt always hangs better with just the two buckles. And it's 33% faster to put on and take off 
That 3rd buckle tends to pull the kilt out of shape.
Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte
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29th April 13, 05:19 AM
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 Originally Posted by OC Richard
What Nik says, a great summation of the issue!
On me, a kilt always hangs better with just the two buckles. And it's 33% faster to put on and take off
That 3rd buckle tends to pull the kilt out of shape.
I agree.
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29th April 13, 06:01 AM
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 Originally Posted by Nik
The historians here at xmts will tell you to go with two buckles. The third was a civilian adaptation of tbe extra high waisted military style of wearing tbe kilt. In the military sthle the third buckle sat were the to right-side one does.
As the civilian kilts sit wat tbe natural waist not above it, the third buck only pulls and hinders the movement of the kilt. Best to leave it out.
-Nik
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what you're saying here, but if I understand your statement correctly, I think I have to disagree.
A military kilt has the top buckles in the exact same place as a civilian kilt. They go at the natural waist. The kilt does indeed come up higher than a civilian kilt, but it happens above the top buckles. This is called the "rise"; it is higher on a military kilt. Those buckles are not in a different place, and are not affected by the rise. And the lower right-side buckle on a military kilt also sits at the same place as its civilian counterpart.
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29th April 13, 07:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by OC Richard
What Nik says, a great summation of the issue!
On me, a kilt always hangs better with just the two buckles. And it's 33% faster to put on and take off
That 3rd buckle tends to pull the kilt out of shape.
*** -- I recently completed a kilt and only put two buckles (left and right at waist). I have read (???) that the lower right buckle helps keep the apron closed but if one wears a kilt pin, that does the job too. I sew the leather strap and buckle strap to the stabilizer (I use canvas) so that the stabilizer is taking the strain rather than the tartan. I put the strap between the stabilizer and lining (lining over the strap so do not see stitching of leather strap to stabilizer). I have even made kilts with only one buckle (use Velcro in place of the left one to hold the under-apron up) and even no buckles at all (use large safety pins). I find having three buckles just makes the kilt more difficult to put on and take off
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