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24th October 12, 01:00 PM
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wool casual vs pv semi traditional
Hello again,
I have been trying to research this with the search button but I am becoming overwhelmed, so I thought I would ask.
I am down to a wool 4 yd casual from B&S or the pv semi trad from USA kilts. (about the same price)
I understand both are good companies and good workmanship.
From what I can gather 16 oz wool seems to be preferred over pv, in general. (I am from Alabama and it gets hot so please correct me if I am wrong)
I am trying to figure out if a wool B&S casual compares in fashion to the casual from usa kilts.
I want a level of formality about on the level of the semi trad. (I can wear to work on casual fridays but still to a ren fair)
Does the fabric make the B&S casual more formal, so it would be on par with a semi trad USA Kilt.
Part of me is concerned that the lighter p/v would not be as nice as a 16 oz wool 4 yard.
thank you guys.
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24th October 12, 01:15 PM
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Last edited by Richrail; 24th October 12 at 01:15 PM.
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24th October 12, 01:20 PM
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24th October 12, 02:28 PM
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I have both a 4 yrd B&S (2 actually) and a 8 yrd pv (Gold Bros)
The wool casuals are far nicer. They don't have the swish of 8 yards, but oh so nice.
Also, B&S does have a 5 yard option for an extra $75. Some like the extra pleats.
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24th October 12, 07:48 PM
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The material is not what makes a kilt "more formal". Rather, the construction. Heavier material will have a better swish compared to an otherwise similar lighter weight. But a semi-trad is definitely "more formal" than a casual. The semi trad, if I'm correct, is made with the same construction as more traditional kilts except with lighter PV material. Whereas the casuals will lack a great deal of internal construction and support.
Personally, I'd save a few more pennies and get a 5yd wool from USAK. I live in OK and we have triple digit summers. Trust me, 100+ degrees is hot no matter what you have one. The comfort for temp is more about the AMOUNT of material, not the weight of the material.
To answer your question, between the 4 yd casual wool and the semi trad PV, the semi-trad will look the part and by my account be more suitable to any event. whereas the casual is just that...casual. the different construction elements will definitely look casual. also, aren't those velcro closures? if so...then the semi trad is the only answer if you ever hope to "dress it up".
My 2 cents.
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24th October 12, 08:52 PM
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 Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan
... To answer your question, between the 4 yd casual wool and the semi trad PV, the semi-trad will look the part and by my account be more suitable to any event. whereas the casual is just that...casual. the different construction elements will definitely look casual. also, aren't those velcro closures? if so...then the semi trad is the only answer if you ever hope to "dress it up". ...
Actually, the B&S casual kilts are sewn with a "traditional" 3-buckle/belt support system. USA Kilts casuals have a Velcro closure system (but not the Semi-Trad). It works fine, however, and is easier to adjust "on the fly", so to speak - like if you want to let the waist out a bit for sitting down, and then cinch it back up, when you stand up. 
Given your choices, and if all else is equal, I would simply select the material you prefer, or you think you will prefer, and go with that. IMHO you can't go wrong either way. Good luck on your decision.
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24th October 12, 08:54 PM
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Its also cold in Alabama. Face it. You need one of each.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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25th October 12, 02:20 AM
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PV is washable...
Not sure why I keep ending up with wool...
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25th October 12, 02:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by Spartan Tartan
The semi trad, if I'm correct, is made with the same construction as more traditional kilts except with lighter PV material.
Not exactly. They look like traditional kilts on the outside, but do not have steeking or canvas. The pleats are not scallop-cut above the fell and are machine sewn. This is not a criticism. I would be proud and comfortable wearing mine (MacNaughten Muted) to any event regardless of the level of formality.
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25th October 12, 02:54 AM
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I don't think that an answer to this question can be found. The nearest you will get is a compromise. We are talking about apples and oranges. Whilst they are both fruit, everyone will agree that they are very different.
If you want to made the best marmalade, you do not choose one of the 700 commercially available varieties (nor one of the 1,200 endangered and preserved ones) of apple. No, you choose an orange.
And when Mom wants to make one of her world famous apple pies, we know what fruit she chooses.
So if anyone says that one or the other kilt is better - well, in that place, on that day, at that time it might have been. But 10 miles down the road, tomorrow, at midnight - it could be a different question.
Regards
Chas
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