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25th September 16, 05:04 AM
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Kilt with 80 pleats
I was watching this video of D Chisholm Inverness (the kiltmaker, not the undertaker) and was amazed when he showed the viewer a vintage kilt with, he says, 80 pleats! I had no idea.
See at 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beQ7JaIn2eI
Last edited by OC Richard; 25th September 16 at 05:06 AM.
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26th September 16, 08:40 AM
#2
I would've loved to see more of the movement of it... the little we did get to see was lovely!
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26th September 16, 12:46 PM
#3
A Frasier Family tartan (he says). I was not surprised at the amount of fading in the pleats compared to the under apron. I too would like to see the movement and swish.
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26th September 16, 02:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by Katia
I would've loved to see more of the movement of it... the little we did get to see was lovely!
But think of pressing all those pleats, Katia! 
Alan
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26th September 16, 04:18 PM
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Last edited by Pegasys; 27th September 16 at 05:37 AM.
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30th September 16, 06:23 AM
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WOW, and the pleats look deep - guessing 4 pleats deep. Imagine the pile of fabric from doing the cutaways. Someone had a lot of time, skill and patience.
slàinte mhath, Chuck
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30th September 16, 09:46 AM
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perhaps the way to get a good 'swish' from the lighter weight tartan cloth I have. hhhmmmm
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1st October 16, 12:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by OC Richard
I was watching this video of D Chisholm Inverness (the kiltmaker, not the undertaker) and was amazed when he showed the viewer a vintage kilt with, he says, 80 pleats! I had no idea.
See at 2:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beQ7JaIn2eI
I am certainly not a kiltmaker , although I do understand the basics of the construction of a traditional kilt .
If it's really true , a kilt with 80 pleats would need some explanation , I don't see how that is possible even on a large person .
The best heavy weight 8 yd kilts will have between 28 to 34 pleats , or at least somewhere in that range . Of course all of this depends on body size , the particular tartan and the pleating selection .
Perhaps our XMarks kiltmakers can shed some light .
Cheers , Mike
Last edited by MacGumerait; 1st October 16 at 12:46 AM.
Mike Montgomery
Clan Montgomery Society , International
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1st October 16, 05:10 AM
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I have a kilt - somewhere - with numerous pleats, as the fabric is striped and I wanted to have the red showing only on the aprons. To hide the red stripe I had to have the grey/black/white part showing so I pressed in the outer folds from the centre back outwards - it is a reverse Kingussie style.
When I reached the edge of the aprons I measured and pinned all the pleats at hip level and found out just how many there were - but I went on to complete the kilt having come so far.
I was simply working with an average length of fabric to get the effect I wanted, a side effect of that was the multiplicity of pleats.
The 80 pleat kilt might have been made from a tartan with a large sett and rather than have fewer larger pleats it was made with multiple small ones. That is perfectly possible if there are several places where pleats could be made - the narrowness of the visible part of the pleats could assist in this, giving more options for where a pleat could be placed.
Anne the Pleater
I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
-- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.
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5th October 16, 10:29 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by neloon
But think of pressing all those pleats, Katia!
Alan
Aye, I'd save up to hire someone! (And to do the basting too...)
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