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    Argyll jackets

    Ok, I am new to wearing jackets with my kilt. I posted a thread where I posted a picture of a kilt jacket my wife made from a suit coat we picked up in a Goodwill store. She did that for me after reading about the suit jacket conversion here on this site. It looked great to me and wore well to the wedding I was attending.

    Now upon further reading I'm hearing about the "Argyll jacket". I'm not sure exactly what is an Argyll jacket. Is it a material or a type? I know this is such a noobish question but I've really never worn a jacket with my kilt until this past Saturday.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MizzouScotsman View Post
    Ok, I am new to wearing jackets with my kilt. I posted a thread where I posted a picture of a kilt jacket my wife made from a suit coat we picked up in a Goodwill store. She did that for me after reading about the suit jacket conversion here on this site. It looked great to me and wore well to the wedding I was attending.

    Now upon further reading I'm hearing about the "Argyll jacket". I'm not sure exactly what is an Argyll jacket. Is it a material or a type? I know this is such a noobish question but I've really never worn a jacket with my kilt until this past Saturday.

    Thanks.
    Argyll is a jacket style . The best way to answer your question is to suggest that you pick one of the many vendor sites listed here and then click on " kilt jackets " the styles and prices that you will find should help you .

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    A fair question if you don't know the answer and if you don't know the answer then you do the obvious thing and ask.

    An argyll jacket is a style of day kilt jacket and comes in two basic forms. In tweed, which can be worn to BBQ's right through weddings and funerals and then, the Barathea cloth argyll which is usually black and comes with silver buttons. The Barathea argyll is really a formal(morning suit equivalent) day jacket.

    Now that is the black and white simple answer, but------------ but there are huge areas of grey!

    Might I suggest that before you get too embroiled in the detail, you find in my old posts a thread called, I think, "The Tweed Argyll" which I think may clarify things a tad for you.
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    If you are planning to get just one jacket, the Argyll is a pretty versatile jacket for smart day wear, which will usually pass with a bow tie for evening wear. They can be obtained with or without a waistcoat/vest and most are in black barathea.
    A Prince Charlie is much smarter but can be very out of place on non formal occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    A fair question if you don't know the answer and if you don't know the answer then you do the obvious thing and ask.

    An argyll jacket is a style of day kilt jacket and comes in two basic forms. In tweed, which can be worn to BBQ's right through weddings and funerals and then, the Barathea cloth argyll which is usually black and comes with silver buttons. The Barathea argyll is really a formal(morning suit equivalent) day jacket.

    Now that is the black and white simple answer, but------------ but there are huge areas of grey!

    Might I suggest that before you get too embroiled in the detail, you find in my old posts a thread called, I think, "The Tweed Argyll" which I think may clarify things a tad for you.
    Always a good read for a new member Jock, in fact after I searched it out. I had another read of it myself.

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...-argyll-63596/
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    As pointed out above, the Argyll can be worn for both semi-casual and more formal occasiosn and now comes in black (normal colour, dark navy blue or even green.

    If you can only afford one jacket then go for an Argyll, would be my advice.

    No matter what you wear, there'll always be one person who'll say you're wearing the wrong jacket, but its more down to what you feel is appropriate and comfortable with.

    I'm trying to save up for an Argyll which i'll wear until I can afford to get a BPC (Bonnie Prince Charlie) for whatever foraml occasions I may be invited to.
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    You may find this article helpful, as well:

    http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/which_jacket.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    A fair question if you don't know the answer and if you don't know the answer then you do the obvious thing and ask.

    An argyll jacket is a style of day kilt jacket and comes in two basic forms. In tweed, which can be worn to BBQ's right through weddings and funerals and then, the Barathea cloth argyll which is usually black and comes with silver buttons. The Barathea argyll is really a formal(morning suit equivalent) day jacket.

    Now that is the black and white simple answer, but------------ but there are huge areas of grey!

    Might I suggest that before you get too embroiled in the detail, you find in my old posts a thread called, I think, "The Tweed Argyll" which I think may clarify things a tad for you.
    That thread did clear things up a bit. Although, the dust up over the "flat cap" left me wondering a bit...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    You may find this article helpful, as well:

    http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/which_jacket.htm
    Thank you very much. It did help a great deal. Although, the cuff discussion left me feeling like I'd been running in circles a bit...lol...but I'm not sure cuffs matter much to me anyway.
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    Just a bit of personal history. I originally bought a Braemer Jacket in black, which is an Argyll with the gauntlet sleeves of the Prince Charlie. When worn with a dress shirt and four-in-hand-tie, with or without a waistcoat (5 button) it is the equivalent of a dress suite with or without vest. When the occasion "black tie", I add a formal dress shirt, bow tie, and a three-button vest and fly plaid, which puts it above the Tuxedo and slightly below the Prince Charlie.

    I later found a Navy Blue sport jacket in a Salvation Army Thrift shop for $3.25, and following the instructions elsewhere on this site, converted it into a Crail jacket. (The buttons cost me $24.00!) The jacket is of a very light wool, (I would guess about 4 or 5 oz) and I wear it much more often than the Bramer. (I live in USDA zone 8) With a shirt and four-in-hand tie it is right up there with the Saxon suit. I also wear it with a turtle-neck from L.L. Bean in one of the colours found in my Tartan.; Incidentally I have never been challenged, and I have attended an occasion where "Prince Charlie" has been on the invitation.

    In any case, the secret is to wear whatever you do, with the air of full saviour faire and let the critics look like the small minded snobs they are!
    Last edited by Carolina Kiltman; 5th September 12 at 07:38 PM.
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