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7th February 08, 03:56 PM
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Opinions needed for Empire Canvas Works Prototype
I was sent a PM from Kevin Kinney of XMTS advertiser Empire Canvas Works ( http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/stormcape.htm a few weeks ago and he asked me if I would mind testing out a prototype shoe he was working on. I assume the main reasons he asked me to do this were:
I had given a very thorough and detailed review on the Heritage shirt I had won from Empire Canvas Works and he was astounded by my writing ability, discerning eye , impeccable style, and overall modesty.
We had about the same size feet
I live somewhere not currently completely encased in solid ice and could actually wear these shoes outside without risk of frostbite
I keep telling myself it was mainly for the first reason that I was chosen, my lovely Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess seemed to think the later two were the most likely, but I digress. (Anyone surprised? Thought not)
In any case I readily agreed and he mailed me a pair of rustic looking brown leather ghillie brogues with a rubber sole. They seemed handsome and sturdily constructed like the other items I have seen made by Empire Canvas Works. Inside each was a thick white pad to cushion the foot. I laced them up and though Kevin is a size 9 and I am 8 ½ they seemed to fit fine.
I have worn them about and they are quite comfortable (their flexible sole has made them my favorite shoes to wear for long drives). The intentionally rough cut laces while neat and rustic looking have to be tied quite tightly to stay up. I haven’t worn them on any long hikes, but as someone who has trudged about many a Renaissance Faire in Minnetonka Moccasins boots I can safely state that these are far more comfortable than those.
The shoes look nice, but in my eyes the styling of these prototypes makes them seem more suited for Renaissance Faire, SCA, LARP, or historical re-enactment than regular everyday use. Though I think they would fit in fine at a Highland Game.
Kevin explained he is still working on the idea and wanted feedback. He is looking at a different toe construction and possibly adding a tongue. After delivering my report I asked him if I could post some pictures. Kevin thought that it would be a great idea and welcomes feedback/ideas from the rabble.
So here are some pictures

Wearing them with my Empire Canvas Heritage Shirt, Stillwater weathered Lamont variant kilt, and Freelander Sporran

Side view

Top view

Heel and bottom
My thanks to Kevin for the opportunity to be a test subject it was fun (I do hope you weren't expecting the shoes back! )
So now the question is...
What do you all think?
Cheers
Jamie
Last edited by Panache; 7th February 08 at 04:05 PM.
Reason: Typo
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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7th February 08, 04:03 PM
#2
What do I think? I think you should mail them to me. I agree that they look something I might wear to a Highland Games, or Renfaire, but that's about it. I am personally not that enamoured by the look of the toe. (But you can still send them to me. )
Best regards,
Jake
[B]Less talk, more monkey![/B]
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7th February 08, 04:03 PM
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They look very well constructed and go good with your Lamont weathered. As Todd would say "different horses for different folks" I could never see myself in a pair but I'd certainly give a nod to man that does.
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7th February 08, 05:07 PM
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And another fine addition to the Empire Canvas line.
Not my style bacause I would need a little slot to put my penny into.
Now, if they just made the sole from the tread of a jeep tire. Shades of the old days.
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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7th February 08, 05:23 PM
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In style, these look very similar to the shoes offered here:
Medieval Moccasins High Top
I actually think I like the look of Kevin's shoes better. (Incidentally, I have a pair of Medieval Moccasin's low top shoes, and ever since I bought them I wish I had got the high tops instead.)
I got my pair of Medieval Moccasins so that I could have a pair of historic-looking shoes to wear when I am doing demos and wearing historic dress, but wanted a pair of shoes with more comfortable and durable soles. I have a pair of extremely historically accurate shoes that do not do so well when I am called to wear them on utterly modern surfaces such as gravel or hot asphalt, nor are they comfortable for wearing for long periods of time. Plus they give me no traction whatsoever!
So I have been happy with my Medieval Mocs for that purpose. I think that a pair of these Empire Canvas Works brogues would suit that same purpose. I'd gladly wear these any time historic footwear was called for, but I wanted the convenience of a modern sole.
I think if you wanted to convert these to something more suited to modern wear, I would re-work the toe so that it was smooth, rather than gathered, and change out the laces to something more modern looking. I wouldn't add a tongue unless you also wanted to use shorter laces that tie in the front as on a typical shoe.
As they are, however, I think they would be great for an historical themed outfit. Looks good, Kevin!
Matt
Last edited by M. A. C. Newsome; 8th February 08 at 05:39 AM.
Reason: fixing typoes -- never type while wearing a wrist brace!
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7th February 08, 05:43 PM
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Wow!! I want a pair! When will they be available?
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8th February 08, 05:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by ccga3359
They look very well constructed and go good with your Lamont weathered. As Todd would say "different horses for different folks" I could never see myself in a pair but I'd certainly give a nod to man that does.
ahem..."different horses for courses".
T.
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8th February 08, 01:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by ccga3359
They look very well constructed and go good with your Lamont weathered. As Todd would say "different horses for different folks" I could never see myself in a pair but I'd certainly give a nod to man that does.
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
ahem..."different horses for courses".
T.
I think I just had a Gary Coleman moment.
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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7th February 08, 05:49 PM
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look to be more costume than something i would put on my feet to kick around town. But then, i'm rarely seen w/o my blundstones. in the end, i'm probably not their target customer.
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7th February 08, 05:55 PM
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 Originally Posted by sputnik
look to be more costume than something i would put on my feet to kick around town. But then, i'm rarely seen w/o my blundstones. in the end, i'm probably not their target customer.
I think that Kevin's intent was to make something with a historical basis that was sturdy and comfortable enough for the trail. I'm not sure if he was really intending something as a particularly modern design for about the town. But I'll let him weigh in if he cares to.
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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