Velvet Argyll jackets

**OC Richard** · 18th December 19, 05:04 AM

Wowza.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Velvet...p2056016.l4276

What does The Rabble think?

Apropos of the discussion of bow tie material, I don't see how you could avoid wearing a big matching velvet bow tie with one of these.

For comparison, here are vintage photos showing velvet doublets:

Not sure whether this is a doublet or an Argyll

**davidlpope** · 18th December 19, 05:47 AM

Richard,

I'm thinking of having a velvet Argyll made up. My plan is to have bias-cut tartan waistcoats to wear with it, but intend to wear a silk or grosgrain tie. I can't imagine wearing a velvet bow tie. How would one tie such a thing?

David

**Jock Scot** · 18th December 19, 06:00 AM

Personally, I would avoid a matching velvet bow tie at all costs. A Black tie(preferably not velvet) with a white shirt would be a classic contrast.

**McMurdo** · 18th December 19, 08:34 AM

I wear a silk self tie bow tie with my velvet doublet. Hard to see here though.

**Pleater** · 18th December 19, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by davidlpope

Richard,

I'm thinking of having a velvet Argyll made up. My plan is to have bias-cut tartan waistcoats to wear with it, but intend to wear a silk or grosgrain tie. I can't imagine wearing a velvet bow tie. How would one tie such a thing?

David

A velvet bow tie is usually one of the permanently made up sort, with a band which clips together inside the back of the bow - and the band is not velvet - I have to confess to owning such a thing in a slightly over the top size, and would not consider it manly in my own social circle - but of course these things differ according to place.

Do velvet doublets have silk lapels? All the more reason for a proper silk or similar fabric bow tie, I'd think.

**MacCathmhaoil** · 18th December 19, 08:21 PM

I have both a black velvet Argyll as well as a black velvet Balmoral doublet and I always wear a silk self tie bow tie. I’m not a fan of the pre-tied bow ties and personally I think the velvet bow ties look a bit off, at least to my eye.

**KD Burke** · 19th December 19, 05:13 AM

I have a red velvet Sherriffmuir doublet that I wish I had more occasion to wear! A trifle warm for Florida....
Sherriffmuir.jpg

**OC Richard** · 19th December 19, 06:36 AM

Cool to see velvet jackets being worn nowadays!

Do you get slippage if you're wearing the velvet Sheriffmuir and using a velvet bag-cover?

Actually it's odd about the velvet bag-covers, I've played them for 40 years and never had a problem with them slipping.

Then a few years ago I got a velvet bag-cover with the Dycem patches, but when I debuted it at a wedding gig I could barely play my pipes! It was the first time I had a bag constantly slipping down. I never wore that cover again.

**davidlpope** · 19th December 19, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by OC Richard

Cool to see velvet jackets being worn nowadays!

Do you get slippage if you're wearing the velvet Sheriffmuir and using a velvet bag-cover?

Actually it's odd about the velvet bag-covers, I've played them for 40 years and never had a problem with them slipping.

Then a few years ago I got a velvet bag-cover with the Dycem patches, but when I debuted it at a wedding gig I could barely play my pipes! It was the first time I had a bag constantly slipping down. I never wore that cover again.

Richard, I tend to agree. I think the Dycem is a gimmick, made popular by all the Grade 1 bands. Pipers have done well without them for centuries. Plus, I think it spoils the aesthetic of the bag, for what it's worth...