Wedding attire questions

[smaughazard]

Hi, all-

I haven't posted in a while simply because life has gotten extremely hectic for the last couple of months- it was all I could do to get online to check email in some of the hotels!

Anyway, my older daughter is getting married next May, and I plan to give her away in full formal kilted attire. PC & vest, tank, tux shirt, et al…

So, a few questions for the less sartorially challenged (Hamish? Rex? etc.):

What are some of the alternate neckwear options? I really dislike bowties!

Formal garden wedding- fly plaid or not?

Plain white or some sort of diced hose?

I will almost certainly be the only kilted person present (which doesn't bother me in the least), but I want the outfit to be right; I'll probably be using it again in a couple of years for the younger daughter.

All suggestions considered and greatly appreciated!

[Schultz]

Most tux shirts are made for bow ties, so you'd have to bend a bit there as far as shirts go.

IMHO, a PC doesn't look right unless one is wearing a bowtie. The vest isn't wide enough in front to accomodate much anything else.

I'd also ditch the fly plaid, but I also don't like them at all outside of a parade.

As far as hosed go, if you can get a pair of argyle ones (and/or don't mind the expense) to match your kilt, that'd be the bee's knees, as it were.

[macwilkin]

Most tux shirts are made for bow ties, so you'd have to bend a bit there as far as shirts go.

IMHO, a PC doesn't look right unless one is wearing a bowtie. The vest isn't wide enough in front to accomodate much anything else.

I'd also ditch the fly plaid, but I also don't like them at all outside of a parade.

As far as hosed go, if you can get a pair of argyle ones (and/or don't mind the expense) to match your kilt, that'd be the bee's knees, as it were.

The big question should be: what is dress of the wedding party, then go from there. Since it is an outdoor wedding, most likely it is going to be in the daytime. Wearing evening wear, especially such a formal garment as the Prince Charlie, for an outside wedding in the day, is a bit of a "sticky wicket": while many folks do it, evening wear is really for...well, the evening. And yes, I wore my PC at a late-afternoon wedding, but if I could do it over, I would have worn a day jacket with waistcoat.

Regards,

Todd

[cavscout]

You might be able to get away with a cravat if it is fairly narrow. I think a big part of the appeal to the PC look is that everyting is very crisp and tight. Sort of contrary to a cravat. And I'm don't think a tie will look right with a PC jacket and 3 button vest.

If you could fudge a bit and go with a bramer or argyle jacket. A crail jacket would probably be the best to offer you more latitude on accessories other than a bow tie.

[RCallan]

For my wedding I had my groomsmen and myself wearing Daytime jackets with vest, white dress shirts, and black silk neckties....(I had a silver tie)....

It looked great and even more important...
We didn't take away from the bride (Remeber it's her day!!!!) by being too dressy (PC jackets with all the buttons)

It was an outdoor day/evening wedding....so the look was good for both times of the day.

[Prester John]

Well, as father of the bride, you could always go with a jabot.

It's very formal, but it looks great. My father-in-law sported one for my son's wedding this July. He really looked like the patriarch of the family.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...03254283411/21

For my part, I have such a long beard that I didn't even wear a tie, and no one could tell.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...803254245606/5

Here were all the kilted gents in one pic. Alot of variety, and the party is formal.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/frjohnpe...03254200329/32

Congratulations by the way. I don't think you can go wrong.

[Panache]

smaughazard,

Congratulations on your daughter's upcoming wedding.

Here are my two cents on your daytime wedding attire.

Buy a black argyle with waistcoat (the waistcoat gives flexibility to dress up or down the jacket) You will find greater use for an argyle in your day to day life than a PC. If you can't have both, go with the more flexible one.

Wear a regular white dress shirt and a tie.

If you are not the groom, don't bother with a flyplaid (magnifiicent looking as they are)

I personally would go with some very nice* white hose (to dress up the outfit) or pick a color from the tartan to match (to dress down).

Hope this was of some assistance

Cheers





* do get nice quality wool or wool blend hose though, they really do look great compared to the acrylic.

[smaughazard]

Thanks for all the advice so far!

I should clarify a couple of points: the wedding is at 7PM in a well-lit formal garden (the groom, his father, and the groomsmen will be in tuxes) so I thought that the PC would be most appropriate. Also, the younger daughter has no wedding plans as yet, but tends to be more formal than her sister- so my thought is that her wedding will probably be more elaborate as well, and that a PC will be appropriate at that time.

[starbkjrus]

Thanks for all the advice so far!

I should clarify a couple of points: the wedding is at 7PM in a well-lit formal garden (the groom, his father, and the groomsmen will be in tuxes) so I thought that the PC would be most appropriate. Also, the younger daughter has no wedding plans as yet, but tends to be more formal than her sister- so my thought is that her wedding will probably be more elaborate as well, and that a PC will be appropriate at that time.

Smaughy, The PC is most appropriate here. So is a black or silver bow tie (sorry). Sounds like you are on the money with this one. 7 PM wedding and other members of the wedding party in tuxes you're good to go.

Seven PM weddings are usually formal and I don't think that some here ( no offense) realize just how formal Southern weddings are. Typically southern weddings are as follows:

11:00 AM - Morning attire - Silver and tails - no real correlation with Scottish attire that I know of.

12:00 PM - High Mass - Seriously formal - usually 2 - 3 hours long - Black Tie or PC is fine. Women wear long dark (as in black) colored gowns unless outdoors. Then cranberry, navy or red will work.

1:00 PM - Slightly less formal - Tea length (dark) dresses and "Day Wear" for the guys.

2:00 or 3:00 PM - Don't go there unless you have to but if you do follow the 1:00 PM dress code.

4:00 PM Same as 1:00 PM - Semi formal day wear BUT the bridesmaides can wear pastels.

5:00 PM - Try not to but if you have to then go with darker tea length for the bridesmaids and tuxes for the men.

6:00 PM - back to formal. Tuxes ( or PC's) for the men and long gowns for the ladies

7:00 PM - Eveningwear - No if's and's or but's. (indoors or out) NO morningcoats!

[mkmound]

. . .
Seven PM weddings are usually formal and I don't think that some here ( no offense) realize just how formal Southern weddings are. Typically southern weddings are as follows:

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Starbkjrus -- this is an interesting read. I don't think I've ever seen a compiled list like this. Where did you find it?