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7th February 06, 11:54 PM
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Are Campbells STILL not welcome in some parts of Scotland??
Hello,
I'm very new to this site (like 10 minutes) and need some help. I am planning a trip to England, Wales, Ireland and potentially Scotland and I am hearing that in some parts visitors are asked their lastname if you answer "Campbell" you are not served in pubs or even welcome in the town! Is this true? And if so should I follow the advice of a friend and say my lastname is "Stuart" (as I am also a part of Clan Stuart of Bute on my mother's side. ) ? Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Erin
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8th February 06, 12:25 AM
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I havent been to Scotland, so I cant say with certainty but I think that bit of misguided bias exists more among those outside of Scotland than in it.
Either way, I would never be so ashamed of my name that I hid behind another.
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8th February 06, 12:32 AM
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Welcome to X marks from Norfolk UK
Derek
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8th February 06, 02:43 AM
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Welcome to the forum!
I've never heard of such a thing, but then again I haven't been to Scotland..;-)
[B]Paul Murray[/B]
Kilted in Detroit! Now that's tough.... LOL
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8th February 06, 03:46 AM
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I can say that it is very very unlikely you will recieve anything other than a warm welcome in Scotland, you will hear some rumblings on message boards but its almost always from people who live outs side if Scotland, be proud of your name my friend, whats done is done.
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8th February 06, 04:38 AM
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Campbells...
My brother-in-law worked for a while in a pub near Glencoe, and claimed that there was a sign above the bar that stated:
"No Campbells Served Here"
But whether they actually enforced it as a house rule, or had it for "local colour" is another matter.
I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Cheers, 
Todd
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8th February 06, 05:05 AM
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Are Campbells still not Welcome
I'm not aware of anywhere in Scotland where your name makes any difference to your welcome. There are plenty of MacDonalds living in Campbeltown nowadays and Campbells living near Glencoe. I suspect the pub sign in Glencoe referred to is no more than a tourist gimmick; they'd have no way of enforcing it since they don't ask customers their names, and most people don't wear tartan. Theoretically clan rivalry may still continue in some distant village at the head of a remote glen but if it does I've certainly never come across it and I've lived in Scotland all my life. Oh and if you do visit Campbeltown, try to go at least one way by 'plane. The twenty minute flight from Glasgow Airport is one of the most scenic, crossing the West Renfrewshire Hills, Firth of Clyde, Isle of Arran and Kilbrannan Sound, then you come in over Davaar Island and Campbeltown Harbour before landing at Campbeltown Airport. Loganair fly the route twice daily using De Havilland Canada Twin Otter aircraft.
Last edited by cessna152towser; 8th February 06 at 05:11 AM.
Reason: more information
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8th February 06, 05:06 AM
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Sounds like a wind-up, I've never heard of such attitudes being held or expressed beyond light hearted fun.
Rab
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8th February 06, 05:21 AM
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We've been to Scotland twice and never heard of anything like that. I do get a kick out of the pub sign seen by CajunScot but I really doubt that it holds true. My wife and I liked the pub sign we saw in Aberdeen "Unrulely children will be sold into slavery!" Go and have fun and be very proud of your name. Lift a pint for Xmarks while you are there
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8th February 06, 05:41 AM
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Well, in my case, and after reading a lot about the '45, and many songs like "Culloden's Harvest", I learned to "reject" Campbells in one way or another, but I learned something different just after listening for the first time the song I include as my sign here. It's called "Erinn Go Bragh" and it starts with the words: "My name is Duncan Campbell from the shire of Argyll...".
After listening to that, I could have a different vision of Campbells as highlanders as the McDonalds were. They fought for the english in the past, that's true, but they also had to suffer the prohibition of kilts and tartans and were rejected as the rest of scots by the english... So after listening many times this song,... I noticed that I had to open my mind. There was a traditional song about a Campbell who kills an english and is prosecuted by lowlanders because he's considered an Irish criminal,... funny uh?
So well, nobody will forget what Clan Campbell did in Culloden, but everybody has to discover what they did and suffered after that, isn't it?
Just as an example of those "tribal" hates: I am a proud Celtic FC suporter, as I am Catholic, I love their colours, and I met many supporters here in Spain during a football match,.... and I' starting to have some kind of nice distant relation with some scottish lassie,... protestant, unionist, and of course, Rangers supporter! those who live in Scotland must know what's that uh? :mrgreen:
As I said,... many people has open minds!
¡Salud!
T O N O
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