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22nd February 16, 04:26 PM
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What tartan may I wear without offending someone's propriety?
Hello.
I actually wear a neutral tartan : Heritage of Scotland.
I'd like to purchase a clan Fraser of Lovat modern hunting one.
A kilt maker of Edinburgh to whom I asked my surname. Frère do exist in England but not in Scotland.
The following question was: "is there any translation of your name?"
Yes, was my answer it can be translated as "Brother" or as "Friar".
All right he said, Friar referes to the Fraser clan.
And I liked that very much because of the beautiful colors, but much more because of the watchword "Je suis prest" (in french) according to my boy scout past (Be prepared) and to my actual ideal in the society.
But... Am I allowed or is it becoming to wear these colors and kilt accessories if I'm not a Scott, nor a real Fraser?
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22nd February 16, 05:42 PM
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22nd February 16, 05:45 PM
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I am not in a position to respond to your question, but I would tell you that whatever tartan you wear will evoke questions about the tartan and, perhaps, the reason you chose to wear it.
You will hear from others with better answers to your question.
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22nd February 16, 05:47 PM
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Welcome to the gang!
Greetings from the wilds of western Oregon!
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22nd February 16, 05:49 PM
#5
1. Welcome aboard.
2. Though some here may disagree with me, (and that's OK), I'd say go ahead and get the tartan that you like. If you are really concerned about it, you could submit a request to the clan Fraser Chief for permission. Or you could look at any of the various "universal" tartans to see if any of those strike your fancy.
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22nd February 16, 09:00 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by Destin_scot
1. Welcome aboard.
2. Though some here may disagree with me, (and that's OK), I'd say go ahead and get the tartan that you like. If you are really concerned about it, you could submit a request to the clan Fraser Chief for permission. Or you could look at any of the various "universal" tartans to see if any of those strike your fancy.
I agree....get the tartan you like. I had a few options when getting my kilt....Stewart of Appin, Mackintosh and Farquharson. Granted I do have family ties to septs of these clans, but I chose Farquharson due to the color of it. I have seen and read in a few places where people have just got a kilt just because of the color. As stated above, if you feel real concerned about it contact clan Fraser.
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22nd February 16, 09:08 PM
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Members here have different opinions. Mine is that you should have some affiliation either biological, marital or geographic to wear a tartan. Beyond that there are numerous fashion tartans or universal tartans that you can wear.
"Good judgement comes from experience, and experience
well, that comes from poor judgement."
A. A. Milne
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22nd February 16, 10:46 PM
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As many here will attest, yours can be a very "loaded" question, but is by no means reason for intimidation. Most well-known tartans are Unrestricted and therefore can be worn by anyone, while others, as I understand, can either be worn "by anyone of the name" or sometimes require permission. In my case, for example, I could probably (and appropriately) wear the tartans of Dyer (my mother's maiden name) as well as the tartans of Lamont (of which my paternal surname--Clements--is a sept), the latter of which, because they are more readily available "off the peg", I actually do.
Last edited by DyerStraits; 22nd February 16 at 10:49 PM.
Best Regards,
DyerStraits
"I Wish Not To Intimidate, And Know Not How To Fear"
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23rd February 16, 02:45 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Marc Brother
Hello.
But... Am I allowed or is it becoming to wear these colors and kilt accessories if I'm not a Scott, nor a real Fraser?
Since you state in your other introductory thread that you have no Scottish roots, you are neither a Scott (which refers to those with the family name Scott) nor a Scot (referring to those with the ethnic background/heritage and/or citizenship).
That said, I believe most here would say you're welcome to wear whatever tartan you like. Just be aware that some people have appointed themselves guardians of their clan's tartan(s) and others will wonder why you're wearing a particular clan's tartan if you have no affiliation (though they may not ask you).
John
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23rd February 16, 03:41 AM
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There is another tartan which may be relevant, which is rare though it's Taggart. You may have to ask the designer for permission to get it, as it was only designed in 2002,
The name derives from "son of the abbot" in Gaelic
"We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give"
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill
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