The level of Tuxedo?

[Ingemar]

Hi Friends!

You are specialists in wearing the kilt and as a regular wearer and honorary member of a clan I plan to wear it for my gratification night at work. I plan to be on the level of tuxedo during the evening.
I have a "night sporran" and all the things directly connected with the kilt itself but how is it with shirt and so, is it a tuxedo-shirt and black bowtie that does it or what should I use?

Greetings from a wondering

Ingemar

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Hi Ingemar!

The kilted equivalent of a tuxedo (smoking) is as follows:

a black dress kilt jacket-- a Prince Charlie coatee or black dress Argyle jacket are the most common;

a white tuxedo shirt;

black bow tie;

tartan, diced, argyll, or solid colour (preferrably not white) hose;

black shoes;

dress or evening sporran.

If you are wearing a waistcoat with your jacket then you do not wear a belt.

Hope that helps, and enjoy your evening!

MoR

[Schiehallion]

Excellent advice there so nothing to add!

[Lyle1]

If ethnic Swedish dress includes a dressy short jacket for man, that might work in place of a PC or an argyle jacket. I've seen some German jackets that would work, but I don't know anything about traditional Swedish clothing. The principle would be that it should be formal and should not fall below the top of the pleats.

[Ingemar]

Hi!
Argyle, both waistcoat and jacket are my plans, have ordered kilthose in dark blue today to combine a "smoking".

Greetings

Ingemar

[KWD]

If you are wearing a waistcoat with your jacket then you do not wear a belt.

I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?

[JSFMACLJR]

I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?

When you wear a suit, you wear either a belt or braces to keep your trousers up. A kilt should not need a belt to keep it up. The belt is actually a "dirk belt" and properly is worn with that purpose in mind. Most people today, though, wear a belt with the kilt for ornamentation.. When one wears a belt with a waistcoat, the only acceptable way to do so is to wear the belt over the waistcoat. When worn under, the buckle pokes out from underneath the waistcoat and looks quite odd.

[artificer]

I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?

I think the major difference is that, with a 3 pc suit, your belt is roughly 1" wide, with a non-descript buckle.

With a kilt, your belt is+ 2" wide and tends to be paired with the waist plate for evening. The buckle overlaps the waistcoat.

Also, a kilt belt shouldn't (by design) 'keep up the kilt' it's more for a visual break between the halves of the body. A trouser belt DOES, by design, keep your p@nts up.

[KWD]

I think the major difference is that, with a 3 pc suit, your belt is roughly 1" wide, with a non-descript buckle.

With a kilt, your belt is+ 2" wide and tends to be paired with the waist plate for evening. The buckle overlaps the waistcoat.

Also, a kilt belt shouldn't (by design) 'keep up the kilt' it's more for a visual break between the halves of the body. A trouser belt DOES, by design, keep your p@nts up.

This i understand.

My thinking is this however, I for one do not like the look of a Kilt without a Kilt belt, I normally wear a vest to occasions like this where you would want to be more formal, if there happens to be dancing that night I for one get very hot a sweaty there for remove my jacket and waistcoat where if i didn't wear a kilt belt (in my opinion) i would look rather silly with no kilt belt on..

I guess it really is just a matter of opinion and what you think really would make you more comfortable.

[artificer]

This i understand.

My thinking is this however, I for one do not like the look of a Kilt without a Kilt belt, I normally wear a vest to occasions like this where you would want to be more formal, if there happens to be dancing that night I for one get very hot a sweaty there for remove my jacket and waistcoat where if i didn't wear a kilt belt (in my opinion) i would look rather silly with no kilt belt on..

I guess it really is just a matter of opinion and what you think really would make you more comfortable.

As a rule, a gentleman ISN'T supposed to remove his jacket in mixed company. This is where the catch comes in. Also, many formal shirts are near-sheer on the body and many formal waistcoats are backless to aid in 'climate control'.

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