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    Blue and Red Rob Roy Tartan?

    Recently I read that Lord Ogilvie supposedly wore trews, waistcoat, and jacket in a red and blue checked tartan resembling the Rob Roy (black and red) tartan during the 1745 Jacobite Rebellion.

    Is anyone familiar with this tartan?

    Thanks.
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    Red and blue is yet anothr variation on a simple theme. It's wrong per se to reference it to the Rob Roy as that name was a Wilsons' one for the Black and Red check that we know from portraits was worn widely during the Jacobite era, often as not by non-MacGregors.

    I don't know your source for the R & B claim but there is a half torso portrait of Lord Ogilvy, attributed to Allan Ramsay, in which he wears a jacket of red and black check and a plaid of a slightly more complex sett. It appears on p26 of Hesketh's book but only in black and white and I've been unable to find a colour version on-line. Assuming that the portrait was painted from life, I somehow doubt that Lord David would have had another outfit in blue and red too and suspect that your source is in error.

    Years ago I wove up some R & B check for hose and a waistcoat but wouldn't think of calling it anything other than 'red and blue dice'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    Red and blue is yet anothr variation on a simple theme. It's wrong per se to reference it to the Rob Roy as that name was a Wilsons' one for the Black and Red check that we know from portraits was worn widely during the Jacobite era, often as not by non-MacGregors.

    I don't know your source for the R & B claim but there is a half torso portrait of Lord Ogilvy, attributed to Allan Ramsay, in which he wears a jacket of red and black check and a plaid of a slightly more complex sett. It appears on p26 of Hesketh's book but only in black and white and I've been unable to find a colour version on-line. Assuming that the portrait was painted from life, I somehow doubt that Lord David would have had another outfit in blue and red too and suspect that your source is in error.

    Years ago I wove up some R & B check for hose and a waistcoat but wouldn't think of calling it anything other than 'red and blue dice'.

    Thanks Peter. I probably should have just come to you first!

    I also wondered if it might have actually been black and not blue - which led to my question.

    I used the "Rob Roy" referral so that it would be understood the tartan was a simple check and not something similar to my avatar.
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