The Celtic ancestors of clan Montgomery

[Ancienne Alliance]

Here is something I discovered today and that I would like to share with you.

It is known that the founders of the Montgomery clan came from Normandy.

But how many know that the Montgomery family had Scots for ancestors ?

My demonstration :

Roger the First, Lord of Montgomery and Alençon (1020 – 1094)

His mother : Dame Josceline Torfulus de Pont-Audemer de la baronnie de Montgomery et Rouaur (1000 – 1068)

Dame Josceline's father : Thorold, seigneur de Pont-Audemer (970 – 1042)

Thorold's father : Torf, seigneur de Pont-Audemer , Harcourt et Tourville dit le Riche

Torf's father : Vicomte de Bernard de Pont-Audemer Rouen dit le Danois (880 – 955)

Bernard de Pont-Audemer's mother : Groa Thorsteinsdatter of Dublin

Now watch this ! Groa's father : Thorstein Olafsson of Dublin The Red (858 – 888)

Thorstein's mother : Auda Ketilsdatter of the Hebrides also called Djuptenkte (830 - )

And who is Auda's dad ? Huh ? : Kenneth I, king of Scotland (810 – 859)

And from there : Alpin, king of Kintyre ( - 834) and all his glorious ancestors the kings of Dalriada.

Amazing, isn't it ?


Best,

Robert

[toadinakilt]

Love it! Very nice work, Robert.

[Ancienne Alliance]

Pour les francophones (for the French speaking) :

Voici le fruit de mes récentes découvertes, lesquelles j'aimerais partager avec vous :

Nous savons que les fondateurs du clan Montgomery étaient Normands.

Mais combien d'entre nous savent que les Montgomery avaient des ancêtres d'origine celtique ?

Voici ma démonstration :

Roger 1er, seigneur de Montgomery et d'Alençon (1020 – 1094). Bien.

Sa mère : Dame Josceline Torfulus de Pont-Audemer de la baronnie de Montgomery et Rouaur (1000 – 1068)

Le père de Dame Josceline : Thorold, seigneur de Pont-Audemer (970 – 1042)

Le père de Thorold : Torf, seigneur de Pont-Audemer , Harcourt et Tourville dit le Riche

Le père de Torf : Vicomte de Bernard de Pont-Audemer Rouen dit le Danois (880 – 955)

La mère de Bernard de Pont-Audemer : Groa Thorsteinsdatter of Dublin

Attention, ça devient intéressant! Le père de Groa : Thorstein Olafsson of Dublin The Red (858 – 888)

Or , la mère de Thorstein est Auda Ketilsdatter des Iles Hébrides dite Djuptenkte (830 - )

Et devinez qui est le père de Auda ? : Nul autre que Kenneth Ier, roi d'Ecosse (810 – 859)

Les ancêtres de ce dernier : Alpin, roi de Kintyre ( - 834) et tous ses glorieux ancêtres les rois de Dalriada.

Et la boucle est bouclée.


Bien à vous,

Robert

[bdkilted]

Even without that noble line, there would be celts in the Clan Montgomery. When David brought his Norman friends and gave them a place in Scotland, the areas they were granted were full of Celts. So, while the noble families may not have been Celt/Scots those in their clans were.

[Ancienne Alliance]

Even without that noble line, there would be celts in the Clan Montgomery. When David brought his Norman friends and gave them a place in Scotland, the areas they were granted were full of Celts. So, while the noble families may not have been Celt/Scots those in their clans were.

True !



Best,

Robert