Argyle Hlders (B)?

[OC Richard]

We're all familiar with the striped necktie of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders. Safe to say it's the most widely-copied and sold regimental stripe tie, you can't go into a Mens Department without seeing one.



But what's the tie below? There are a couple on Ebay now.

The pattern looks familiar, but I Googled "regimental neckties" and so forth and I couldn't find it.

Here's the Ebay listing. As you can see the label on the tie says Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders B

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Argyle-Suthe...AAAOSw~oFXIWHy

Here are photos from the listing

[MacKenzie]

Same tie.

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Argy...Silk/346233041

[Taskr]

Is it just a "B"usiness stripe? Vice regimental stripe.

[Red Redwine]

I didn't find it at the Ben Silver website, a store in Charleston, S.C. that carries a lot of regimental ties. I read somewhere once that true regimental and school ties have stripes that run from left to right, but I do not know that for certain.

[MacKenzie]

It's not here... http://www.regimentalshop.com/collections/ties

[Red Redwine]

I missed it:

http://www.bensilver.com/R35A-1st-Ar...l#.VyJ4IHpLWao

[Jock Scot]

I didn't find it at the Ben Silver website, a store in Charleston, S.C. that carries a lot of regimental ties. I read somewhere once that true regimental and school ties have stripes that run from left to right, but I do not know that for certain.

As we look at the tie, as far as British Regimental/university/old school/Club ties/etc. are concerned the high right-low left stripes out number the high left low right stripe by probably, three to one. There is no real significance of which way the stripes go.Off the top of my head, three examples of the minority high left, low right stripes are, The Royal Marines, The intelligence Corps, and The Royal Air Force.

One needs to be careful, some Battalions within a Regiment can have their own tie. Is there a Commonwealth connection? I have no idea in this case with the tie in question, but I would not be surprised. Also, I believe that the A&S Highlanders have a new style of tie and no, not the red one in question.

As an afterthought, google G.D. Golding(tailors) or, Smart turnout and there are usually pages of the types of ties in question for examples.

[Pleater]

It looks as though it should belong to the artillery because it is definitely loud

Anne the Pleater

[OC Richard]

Good eye! Thanks!

http://www.bensilver.com/R35A-1st-Ar...l#.VyXqjY-cGUl

Ah, so they're selling two A&SH ties.

By "1st" I wonder if they mean the old 91st Highlanders. Perhaps our familiar one is from the old 93rd Highlanders?

In 1881 the 91st became the 1st Battalion and the 93rd became the 2nd Battalion of the new Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders.

Did these striped regimental ties exist prior to 1881?

[Jock Scot]

I stand to be corrected here, but the 5th Battalion's tie is very much like the original and usual A&S tie, except the very thin yellow and red lines change places.