Family History: Ulster Scottish Immigration to the U.S.A.

**Silk** · 29th July 13, 07:47 AM

Hi, I'm not American but play one on TV.

(just kidding)

Anyways I found this page today on the net and felt that this is a page I would LOVE to read if I was an American of Scottish heritage so thought I'd post it up for all the Americans here. ;) It has a LOT of information and mentions places, etc. too which should be helpful for those doing family research. I hope someone enjoys it!

silk

http://www.scotlands.com/usa/3.html

**tulloch** · 29th July 13, 07:51 AM

Thanks! That will make for some interesting reading.

**Silk** · 29th July 13, 08:16 AM

I'm a little confused, I just got a message saying this thread was deleted and here it is?

silk

**Hopper250** · 29th July 13, 08:35 AM

An interesting read, it also ties into the point, noted in other threads, that some Americans (I really don't get this confusion and I live here) think that Scottish and Irish are interchangable.

**Silk** · 29th July 13, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Hopper250

An interesting read, it also ties into the point, noted in other threads, that some Americans (I really don't get this confusion and I live here) think that Scottish and Irish are interchangable.

Yes, this is exactly what crossed my mind when I saw this page and so I thought this would be a great read for members who have mentioned this.

Silk

**thescot** · 29th July 13, 09:03 AM

@Hopper250: I regret to say that many Americans are so ignorant of history, geography, and other social studies topics that they probably don't know the difference between Scottish and Irish. It is embarassing, but that it truly the state to which our educational system has fallen. They don't really teach American History much anymore as a policy. There are those teachers who actually teach no matter what the poicy guielnes are.

Also, there are so many Scots-Irish (Scotch Irish) decendants in the US--especially the South--that there is a lot of discussion and knowledge of the fact, even if they don't really know what "ScothIrish" really means. I know I didn't when I was very young. I knew we had "ScothIrish" forebears, but I had no idea what that implied until later as I grew older and studied history. "Ulster Scots" sounded like "Scots from Somewhere" to me and did not imply Ireland. In fact, it was my facination with Ulster mythology--Finn McCool an' a' that--that really got me interested in the whole Ulster thing.

That site you listed above is pretty interesting. However, I've also read that the Scots Irish who came to the US were so thoroughly indoctrinated as Irish that they simply thought of themselves as Irish, and not necessarily Scottish. Fiercely protestant, perhaps, but even today, the Northern Ireland I've been involved with is a divided Ireland--protestant and Catholic--but Irish none the less.

This will bear additional study, and I'd love to hear Todd ring in on the subject, not to mention the Irish--northern and republican--members. Since I am neither, my rights to an opinion are very limited.

**FatherWilliam57** · 29th July 13, 09:29 AM

Thanks so much for posting this thread. I know my family was in western Pennsylvania by 1776 (when my g-g-g-grandfather was born in Westmoreland County), but we cannot track back any further with his father (when he arrived in America, from where exactly, etc.). This site seems to offer a great deal of information which may help me get back on track with further genealogical research. Thanks again!

**Silk** · 29th July 13, 09:53 AM

I'm just thrilled if it's new or helpful information for those of you having these roots in the States. I know how wonderfully exciting it can be to come upon new information about your roots.

Silk

**cessna152towser** · 29th July 13, 10:20 AM

I'm a little confused, I just got a message saying this thread was deleted and here it is?

Your thread appeared twice - this can happen if the post is slow to upload and the poster clicks again - and the second copy was deleted by the moderators to ensure that all responses would go into the one thread.
Anyway this has the potential to be a very interesting thread.
My maternal grandfather's lineage is from Scots settlers who went to Ulster in the late 1600's. During the second half of the nineteenth century my great grandfather and his two brothers emigrated to USA. The two brothers settled in USA and they have many descendents there today, particularly in Ohio. Great grandfather returned to Ireland, then moved to Scotland, then after he died his widow and children emigrated to Canada, all except my grandfather who had meantime taken a Scottish bride.

**Silk** · 29th July 13, 10:27 AM

Your family has been all over Cessna! lol

I just wanted to alert everyone interested in family history/commemoration to the thread I just posted regarding Dennis Macleod and his mission to have memorials erected wherever highlanders have settled (from the clearances.) One was apparently established in Manitoba the year after the original statue to memorialize them was erected in Scotland. I didn't come upon any other memorials on the net yet so if you know of one you might want to post over there.

Silk