Looking For MacDonald History

**TaxCollector** · 3rd June 11, 08:25 AM

I have always been interested in the clans and septs of Scotland. I myself am a "Jenkins" boy, which has no direct clan affiliations. However this is where I get my Scottish blood (fathers side of course), as I looked more into the clans I decided that I should try my mothers side (German/Cherokee). Her maiden name is "Crum" and as I looked into this I found that one of the septs of Clan MacDonald is Crum. Any historians know why this has come to be? I'm extremely interested, and if Crum is a part of Clan MacDonald, does this give me access to MacDonald tartans and Clan Crests?

Thanks for your time,
Jake

**CMcG** · 3rd June 11, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by TaxCollector

Her maiden name is "Crum" and as I looked into this I found that one of the septs of Clan MacDonald is Crum. Any historians know why this has come to be? I'm extremely interested, and if Crum is a part of Clan MacDonald, does this give me access to MacDonald tartans and Clan Crests?

I'm no historian, so I can't tell you why Crum is a sept of Clan Donald. Your mother's family certainly gives you an excuse to wear a MacDonald tartan and you could apply to join the clan if want to make it more official. That being said, I don't know of any legal restrictions on the various Clan Donald tartans, so you could just go ahead and wear it.

**Burly Brute** · 3rd June 11, 10:06 AM

I am confused, you get your Scottish blood through your father, Jenkins senior?

**TaxCollector** · 3rd June 11, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

I am confused, you get your Scottish blood through your father, Jenkins senior?

Yes, the story is extremely confusing, but my Great(x4) Grandparents (fathers side), moved from Scotland to England, and from there migrated to America (through Ontario).

**Burly Brute** · 3rd June 11, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by TaxCollector

Yes, the story is extremely confusing, but my Great(x4) Grandparents (fathers side), moved from Scotland to England, and from there migrated to America (through Ontario).

But it has no clan affiliation? I am just confused, is there a surname in your father's line that has affiliation with a clan at all? I would say whatever you are drawing your heritage from to begin with would be the path sooner sought.

**TaxCollector** · 3rd June 11, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Burly Brute

But it has no clan affiliation? I am just confused, is there a surname in your father's line that has affiliation with a clan at all? I would say whatever you are drawing your heritage from to begin with would be the path sooner sought.

I've never been able to look that far back, overtime as I get more research I guess we will find out.

**Burly Brute** · 3rd June 11, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by TaxCollector

I've never been able to look that far back, overtime as I get more research I guess we will find out.

Well as the gents on here have pointed out to me several times...sometimes without asking!

It is more traditional to go with your father's line. But, you will get about every answer on here!

My best advice would be to talk to some people nearest you, maybe at a games event or gathering? Good luck brother!

**CMcG** · 3rd June 11, 11:37 AM

If TaxCollector reads through another thread, there are some pertinent posts as well:

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...ily-too-66742/

**Graham A. Robieson** · 3rd June 11, 11:55 AM

Greetings,

Here is some background info on the name 'JENKIN, JENKINS', Moray, Lanarkshire etc. 16th c. and 'CROMB' As CRUM; MACDONALD to GORDON...'CRUM, CROOM', Benderloch, MACDONALD.

JENKINS is associated with a place/district...you can look for a district tartan or find what clan occupied those areas and which could hold connections for you on your father's side.

CRUM is also associated with a place/district and clan MacDonald, the sept 'CRUM' belongs to an individual family, unless you can clearly trace your roots to that clan sept...then mostly like a location/district would hold greater connections for you on your mother's side.

Hope this info. sheds some more light on your roots,

All the best,

Graham

Another Note: you can wear whatever tartan you want...however you can not make claims of clanship if your not recognised as a member by a chief...chiefs are the sole authority on clan matters...and decide what tartans are recognised for the clan.

**macwilkin** · 3rd June 11, 11:57 AM

From the Clan Donald Society of the USA's list of names associated with the Clan:

•Cromb (76) Only those from Islay and must have originally been a MACCRUM.
•Crum (76) Only those from Islay and must have originally been a MACCRUM.

-- http://clan-donald-usa.org/CDCMS/ind...e=names-a-to-f

Also see: http://clan-donald-usa.org/CDCMS/ind...of-clan-donald

T.