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    WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Does anyone know where I can purchase (preferably online) a ''picture book" (one that shows the images of the tartans) of either / both of the following:

    Pattern book of the Wilsons of Bannockburn 1819 tartan collection

    The Vestiarium Scoticum (written by the infamous Sobieski Stuarts)

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    I am unsure of this, but I think Matthew Newsome has copies of both books at the Scottish Tartans Museum in Franklin, North Carolina, so perhaps he will chime in.

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    It is possible that Peter MacDonald (Figheadair) may be able to give you some information on WOB.
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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Kyle is quite correct, in that the STM has a copy of VS on their site and Peter MacDonalds book on WOB can be purchased through the STM giftshop
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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    For our iPad and iPhone (and the Android people, too), is there an app for that?

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    As for the VS:
    No, there is no place to purchase any sort of photo book of the tartans, though producing such is one project that we have had on the back burner at the STM ever since we acquired a copy. If anyone would like to help sponsor such a project, please let me know!

    In the meantime, you can view images of all the tartan illustrations from the book, absolutely for free, on line:
    http://resources.scottishtartans.org...m_gallery.html

    As for the 1819 Key Pattern Book from Wilson's this was not ever a published book, as we think of it. Peter MacDonald's book about the 1819 KPB is very interesting and a must have for tartan enthusiasts, and while it does have some illustrations, most tartans are not illustrated. We have been sold out at the STM for a while now, though we do have a copy in our research library, and I have a personal copy at home. I'll let Peter share more about that excellent book.

    While it is not the 1819 KPB, we do have photographs of all the tartans included in a sample book from the 1830-40s era that is most likely Wilsons' cloth.
    http://resources.scottishtartans.org...e_gallery.html

    I have some other photographs of Wilsons tartan from the STA collection which I will one day get around to putting on line, as well.

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    For our iPad and iPhone (and the Android people, too), is there an app for that?AA
    I'm not an apps expert but I very much doubt that that will ever happen. A case of too little interest for the work/cost involved. But I may be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    As for the 1819 Key Pattern Book from Wilson's this was not ever a published book, as we think of it. Peter MacDonald's book about the 1819 KPB is very interesting and a must have for tartan enthusiasts, and while it does have some illustrations, most tartans are not illustrated. We have been sold out at the STM for a while now, though we do have a copy in our research library, and I have a personal copy at home. I'll let Peter share more about that excellent book.

    While it is not the 1819 KPB, we do have photographs of all the tartans included in a sample book from the 1830-40s era that is most likely Wilsons' cloth.
    http://resources.scottishtartans.org...e_gallery.html

    I have some other photographs of Wilsons tartan from the STA collection which I will one day get around to putting on line, as well.
    As Matt says, the 1819 was not a book as such. It was certainly never published and there were no pictures or samples in it. Rather, it was a collection of Wilsons' most common weaving patterns that were combination into an sort of in-house instruction manual with comments on some of the setts. My research lead me to the conclusion that the 1819 KPB was a consolidation of their Pattern Books 1 and 2.

    I published counts for the named tartans and other related information in The 1819 Key Pattern Book - One Hundred Original Tartans which is virtually out of print (I think I have half a dozen copies left). The good news is that I'm fairly well through a major re-write that will include corrections, additional research and many more images, particularly of artefacts rather than simply endless computer generated images of tartans. This is now a very much more realistic undertaking because of the advent of Printing on demand. If all goes well it should be ready in the spring.

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    I published counts for the named tartans and other related information in The 1819 Key Pattern Book - One Hundred Original Tartans which is virtually out of print (I think I have half a dozen copies left). The good news is that I'm fairly well through a major re-write that will include corrections, additional research and many more images, particularly of artefacts rather than simply endless computer generated images of tartans. This is now a very much more realistic undertaking because of the advent of Printing on demand. If all goes well it should be ready in the spring.
    Very much looking forward to that, Peter!

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    Very much looking forward to that, Peter!
    Me too!

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    Re: WOB and Vestiarium Scoticum

    Quote Originally Posted by auld argonian View Post
    For our iPad and iPhone (and the Android people, too), is there an app for that?

    Best

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    No app.

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