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28th September 14, 03:47 PM
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Kilted Leftenant in North Africa, circa 1942

My grandfather, a Kilpatrick, was an officer in the US Army Air Corps, attached to a troop carrier group when we invaded North Africa. .He passed in 2006, but I am still slowly going through all of his memorabilia. Here is a photo I found today which I thought you might enjoy. I don't know the exact date or location except that it is somewhere in North Africa, 1942-1943.
I can't tell much from the photo. Looks like Blackwatch tartan, but it's very dark. Can anyone tell what unit he would have been in? The back of the photo lists him as a Lt. Greenough, in the kilt of course, and the rest are Americans I believe. Any clue from the sporran, etc.?
I thought kilts were not typically worn in WWII except for presentation? He sure looks like he's been out in the heat in this uniform.
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28th September 14, 04:04 PM
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He certainly looks the part but I'm wondering if he might have been a staff officer at HQ. if we was being called on as a piper he might have some pipes with him.
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28th September 14, 04:11 PM
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He looks like he's holding something in his left hand, behind his leg. Any chance those could be pipes? I might see part of the bag and maybe a drone or the chanter. Or it could be my imagination.
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28th September 14, 04:18 PM
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Perhaps, this Leftenant was part of some ceremonial function or just wearing his unit's proscribed dress of the day. Kilts were not worn during combat; however, during WWII many troops wore the dress of the day during garrison type activities. Highland units were no exception.
Most armies did this up to recent times. Almost any US veteran who enlisted before 1990 remembers wearing half or full dress (e.g. Class B or Class A for the Army) for payday. This practice has gone into history as more and more units wear camouflage (which is a form of utility dress) for almost all daily activities.
Last edited by MacEanruig; 28th September 14 at 04:20 PM.
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Mark Anthony Henderson
Virtus et Victoria - Virtue and Victory
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
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28th September 14, 04:33 PM
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The following image is an example of a "Short Sleeve Barrack Dress," which may have been required by certain ranks:
Also, if you care to peruse, are the Dress Regulations for the Royal Regiment of Scotland. Keep in mind, however, that uniform regulations do change, and quite often.
Mark Anthony Henderson
Virtus et Victoria - Virtue and Victory
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
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28th September 14, 04:59 PM
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Tobus, I gather you are talking about Operation Torch, which was the invasion of western North Africa in November 1942, and yes, the Black watch were part of that invasion force.
Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it. Harry (Breaker) Harbord Morant - Bushveldt Carbineers
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28th September 14, 05:38 PM
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Lieutenant is spelled the same as in America but pronounced differently, similar to khaki. A leftenant kernel probably would be something of a novelty in the Commonwealth or American forces.
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28th September 14, 05:54 PM
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Sorry, "leftenant" is somewhat of an inside joke, based on a humourous story he told from the war. I sometimes forget that others haven't heard it.
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28th September 14, 06:11 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tobus
He looks like he's holding something in his left hand, behind his leg. Any chance those could be pipes? I might see part of the bag and maybe a drone or the chanter. Or it could be my imagination.
My vision is not much help to me anymore, even with the photo enlarged. But did British officers carry "swagger sticks", and possibly the end of one is barely visible in his left hand?
Last edited by Jim Simmons; 28th September 14 at 06:12 PM.
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28th September 14, 06:32 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jim Simmons
My vision is not much help to me anymore, even with the photo enlarged. But did British officers carry "swagger sticks", and possibly the end of one is barely visible in his left hand?
Jim, excellent point! British officers as well as Regimental Sergeant Majors (RSMs) tended to carry swagger or pace sticks as symbols of authority.
Mark Anthony Henderson
Virtus et Victoria - Virtue and Victory
"I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." - Douglas Adams
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