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2nd October 21, 04:42 PM
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Trying Something New
I’m doing some experimentation to get some ideas of “looks” that I like. I picked up an inexpensive vest (it’s not a true waistcoat) for casual occasions. It’s a little long. I would like to find some lighter gray kilt hose to match the vet a little more closely, but I think it’s a start!
Once I narrow it down, I’ll invest in some authentic kit!
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2nd October 21, 04:44 PM
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Not sure what you mean by the vest not being a true waistcoat. Those are synonyms, one just more popular on each side of the Atlantic.
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3rd October 21, 08:19 AM
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Did you mean to post a picture?
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3rd October 21, 11:48 AM
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 Originally Posted by MichiganKyle
Did you mean to post a picture?
That's interesting...there was a photo and it showed up in the preview.
Let's try this again..
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4th October 21, 09:08 AM
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 Originally Posted by Navy87Guy
I’m doing some experimentation to get some ideas of “looks” that I like. I picked up an inexpensive vest (it’s not a true waistcoat) for casual occasions. It’s a little long. I would like to find some lighter gray kilt hose to match the vet a little more closely, but I think it’s a start!
Once I narrow it down, I’ll invest in some authentic kit!
Looks like a nice vest! I think a few folks in the K&C group have them.
As a Californian, I definitely have a lot to learn about formality - I've worn sandals to a wedding before. Learning about highlandwear has certainly helped with this, but there's always room for improvement.
One rule I've picked up is not to wear a waistcoat without a tie. Once you start looking for it, you'll notice folks looking a bit naked without the necktie. In this case, your vest is clearly casual, and I wouldn't expect a tie. However, I'd encourage you to play around with the concept, especially when you move toward a more formal waistcoat.
On the subject of matching, one rule of thumb is to match your top with your bottom, with the kilt in the middle breaking it up. You'll see this in some hire outfits - i.e. lovat green hose, lovat green jacket, etc. Another rule of thumb is to ensure that no two of your big three areas match - top (jacket), middle (kilt), bottom (hose). Another great concept to play around with.
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4th October 21, 05:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by KennethSime
Looks like a nice vest! I think a few folks in the K&C group have them.
As a Californian, I definitely have a lot to learn about formality - I've worn sandals to a wedding before. Learning about highlandwear has certainly helped with this, but there's always room for improvement.
One rule I've picked up is not to wear a waistcoat without a tie. Once you start looking for it, you'll notice folks looking a bit naked without the necktie. In this case, your vest is clearly casual, and I wouldn't expect a tie. However, I'd encourage you to play around with the concept, especially when you move toward a more formal waistcoat.
On the subject of matching, one rule of thumb is to match your top with your bottom, with the kilt in the middle breaking it up. You'll see this in some hire outfits - i.e. lovat green hose, lovat green jacket, etc. Another rule of thumb is to ensure that no two of your big three areas match - top (jacket), middle (kilt), bottom (hose). Another great concept to play around with.
Thanks - that’s helpful advice!
In full disclosure, we had just gotten back from a Renaissance faire and the vest had arrived. I threw it on with a shirt…but I have a black tie that I would plan to wear with it! 😉
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7th October 21, 09:30 PM
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 Originally Posted by KennethSime
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On the subject of matching, one rule of thumb is to match your top with your bottom, with the kilt in the middle breaking it up. You'll see this in some hire outfits - i.e. lovat green hose, lovat green jacket, etc. Another rule of thumb is to ensure that no two of your big three areas match - top (jacket), middle (kilt), bottom (hose). Another great concept to play around with.
Really? I must confess that I have never heard that before. Where does that idea come from? The concept does not appeal as it shows that far too much thought and effort goes into the process of wearing the kilt and its accompanying attire and that is far from the traditional way of doing things. Which is, if colours match with one’s kilt attire then its by accident rather than design.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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7th October 21, 10:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Really? I must confess that I have never heard that before. Where does that idea come from? The concept does not appeal as it shows that far too much thought and effort goes into the process of wearing the kilt and its accompanying attire and that is far from the traditional way of doing things. Which is, if colours match with one’s kilt attire then its by accident rather than design.
The first idea comes from the kilt companies who produce hose which match jackets. 
The second I picked up here on the forum. ;)
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7th October 21, 10:57 PM
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 Originally Posted by KennethSime
The first idea comes from the kilt companies who produce hose which match jackets.
The second I picked up here on the forum. ;)
I must say I really am unaware of the first idea and sounds terribly artificial.
As to the second idea, you are not wrong and I fear that it’s been interpreted over time, by many on this website, to what you say it is. It is true that the traditional end result is that the intention is that nothing should match, what has been lost overtime here is that no effort or thought is used whilst achieving that. Should a match occur then no one worries too much.
When I see a picture of myself wearing the kilt I am quite often surprised at my colour choices as I give no conscious thought about them when I put them on! Also, depending on one’s tartan this idea of matching one’s hose, or shirt, or tie to the yellow stripe, for example, of one’s tartan is never a conscious thought. Actually with my tartan, MacLeod of Harris, with its five colours it is very difficult not to end up with something matching. So, why stress over it? Rules? Well, well not really it’s more subtle than that. Intentions? Oh yes, for sure.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 7th October 21 at 11:22 PM.
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8th October 21, 05:34 AM
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I'm already bucking the rules by wearing a kilt, so in for a penny, in for a pound. I rather enjoy the freedom not to match, but I also like to match thighs sometimes too.
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