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26th February 11, 02:36 AM
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Wedding attire for FotG
Father-of-the-Groom that is, next month.
I have a couple of other ties to choose from, but my goal is to blend with the other members of the wedding party, as much as I can, and they will have matching Crawford ties.
And I still need to fine-tune the height positioning of kilt, hose and sporran.
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26th February 11, 02:56 AM
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Alright as you asked( I think you are) and please don't take this to heart and what you do is entirely your own affair.
Why wear a tartan tie when you are wearing several yards of the same stuff around your hips?It is possible to overdo the tartan and if it were me I would find another tie.
Again, if it were me I would raise the bottom of the kilt so it was no lower than the centre of the kneecap and even better I would raise the kilt so that the bottom of the kilt was level with the top of your kneecap.
I think the top of your hose could be lowered perhaps an inch or even two inches.Maybe the camera angle is not helping the overall look, but that is how the picture looks to me.
And I think, sorry, a bit more polish on those shoes will compliment the entire look wonderfully.
Actually you are looking very smart, so don't despair. With a wee tad of fine tuning you will look devastating!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 26th February 11 at 03:05 AM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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26th February 11, 06:55 AM
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Listen to Jock Scot. He knows of what he writes! And know that you are looking good already Dale-of-Cedars
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
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Why wear a tartan tie when you are wearing several yards of the same stuff around your hips?It is possible to overdo the tartan and if it were me I would find another tie.
I would tend to agree about the tie but I also understand the need to fit in with the wedding party mentioned by the OP... if the tartan tie is stipulated by the bride and groom, then do it. If not, then skip it because, as Jock wrote, you have enough of that tartan in the kilt!
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
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I think the top of your hose could be lowered perhaps an inch or even two inches.
To achieve this, roll the cuff of the hose down further. That will bring the top of the hose lower but also cover a bit more of your flashes so they don't run the risk of looking like flags flapping in the breeze.
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
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26th February 11, 07:08 AM
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Actually, I'll be F.o.t.G. this Autumn, and this is the M.U.G. I'll be wearing:

Rev'd Father Bill White: Mostly retired Parish Priest & former Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair with solid Welsh and other heritage.
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26th February 11, 08:03 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Dale-of-Cedars
Father-of-the-Groom that is, next month.
I have a couple of other ties to choose from, but my goal is to blend with the other members of the wedding party, as much as I can, and they will have matching Crawford ties.
And I still need to fine-tune the height positioning of kilt, hose and sporran.

Looking good Da !
[I][B]Ad fontes[/B][/I]
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26th February 11, 08:54 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Alright as you asked( I think you are) and please don't take this to heart and what you do is entirely your own affair.
Thanks Jock, and everything you mention is quite valid.
I'm still getting used to how high the rise of the kilt needs to sit on my waist, and will lower the hose too.
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26th February 11, 09:49 PM
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You look good. Classic colour combination of charcoal and rich red. I know a lot is said about not wearing tartan tie and kilt in name of good taste , but there is always an exception and this is a example. Don't feel like you have ceated a faux pas by wearing it. When you are seated no one will see your kilt but they will your Hgt Macgredor(?) tie and charcoal jkt and no doubt happy countenance! So normally I don't recommend tartan tie and kilt but when something looks good go with it. The wearing of the kilt should be as other clothes evolving, remeber when no one would wear suit coat and jeans(denim) well even I have to admit the younger fellows who wear this can look good- so that rule of fashion is now out. Kilt dress rules that are always in I think are , kilt not lower than middle of knee can be a bit above the knee for some, flashes discretly showing, hose tops turned down to reveal flesh between top of hose and knee, this is mens attire after all. In days of yore the highlanders were head to foot in tartan so where this sense of no tartan tie and kilt together came from I am not sure, except that there is good taste in not overdoing things. I like tartan hose / argyle hose but would not wear them with tartan tie and kilt as that would be too much in my view. But as Matt's website says Highland dress is a free dress so be guided by your sense of good taste and the happy occasion.
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26th February 11, 10:00 PM
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Yes, Jock knows his stuff. But he is also a die-hard "traditionalist".
I happen to like the bias-cut tie very much, and my recommendation (worth what you have paid for it) is to wear it.
In the States no one expects to see a kilt, and "matchy-matchy" isn't the issue it is where the people seeing your outfit have something to compare it to.
(okay, you are in Canada, but I bet your fellow countrymen share more in common regarding kilts with us Statesiders than with native Scots).
Wanting to match the rest of the wedding party carries more fashion weight than "matching too much". (again, IMHO).
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26th February 11, 11:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by Calico
Yes, Jock knows his stuff. But he is also a die-hard "traditionalist".
I happen to like the bias-cut tie very much, and my recommendation (worth what you have paid for it) is to wear it.
In the States no one expects to see a kilt, and "matchy-matchy" isn't the issue it is where the people seeing your outfit have something to compare it to.
(okay, you are in Canada, but I bet your fellow countrymen share more in common regarding kilts with us Statesiders than with native Scots).
Wanting to match the rest of the wedding party carries more fashion weight than "matching too much". (again, IMHO).
Gosh I wish I knew how to use the quote thing where only the bit I want comes up! Not only a traditionalist, but a technodunce too!
Anyway to the last paragraph! Why should anyone want to match the rest of the wedding party? Okay I quite understand we are talking outwith Scotland here, but in Scotland there could be 50 different tartans in at least 3 different hues on show at a wedding. In fact, just like suits at weddings that don't match in the rest of the world, from my experience. Why in heaven's name, should everything have to match?I quite accept that there may be accidental matching but that is bound to happen on occasion, but we are not talking uniforms here!
Last edited by Jock Scot; 26th February 11 at 11:51 PM.
" Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.
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26th February 11, 11:22 PM
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 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Alright as you asked( I think you are) and please don't take this to heart and what you do is entirely your own affair.
Why wear a tartan tie when you are wearing several yards of the same stuff around your hips?It is possible to overdo the tartan and if it were me I would find another tie.
Again, if it were me I would raise the bottom of the kilt so it was no lower than the centre of the kneecap and even better I would raise the kilt so that the bottom of the kilt was level with the top of your kneecap.
I think the top of your hose could be lowered perhaps an inch or even two inches.Maybe the camera angle is not helping the overall look, but that is how the picture looks to me.
And I think, sorry, a bit more polish on those shoes will compliment the entire look wonderfully.
Actually you are looking very smart, so don't despair. With a wee tad of fine tuning you will look devastating!
Further to what Jock has said, I'll suggest three wee tweeks:
1) A red, or better yet, a red and white striped tie. Why red and white? Because those are the Crawford livery colours, and will best show off in close proximity to your beard;
2) A white handkerchief in you pocket will help lift the grey of you jacket and waistcoat;
3) On the day, a fresh flower in the lapel will give your outfit a bit of pop, creating a less serious look without straying into the realms of frivolity.
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