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Originally Posted by Joshua

I dont' want to sound like some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist... but I did see the now-redacted local CBS news footage (that has since been yanked from both the affiliate site and youtube) where there were shouts of "Burn the MF'er! Burn it!", as they were lobbing flashbangs and tear gas into the cabin.

The whole thing was a giant mess. From Dorner's rampage and shooting innocents, to the LAPD's careless response by shooting at ladies on a paper route and eventually burning a man alive in their zeal.

There were zero winners in this altercation.

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No heroes in the whole thing...just a tragic mess with many new wounds opened in our state and nation.

Maybe we'll learn from it and grow but I'm not holding my breath.

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Was it a police pipe band? Or a civilian band hired for the procession?

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As OCRichard has now reported on the other thread re Detective Jeremiah MacKay,

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I saw Officer Crane's funeral on TV; The University of Riverside Pipe Band played.

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This Thursday will be the funeral of Deputy MacKay. I talked to some pipers who are police officers yesterday and they said that a big showing of pipers was being put together and that I was invited.

Many of us are scrambling trying to get the time off work to make as good a showing from the pipe band community as possible. MacKay was a piper himself. Here's a local report about him

http://www.myfoxla.com/story/2119036...eremiah-mackay

Wow that makes for some tough viewing... here I am at 5am crying at my keyboard.

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Originally Posted by Joshua

I dont' want to sound like some kind of crazy conspiracy theorist... but I did see the now-redacted local CBS news footage (that has since been yanked from both the affiliate site and youtube) where there were shouts of "Burn the MF'er! Burn it!", as they were lobbing flashbangs and tear gas into the cabin.

The whole thing was a giant mess. From Dorner's rampage and shooting innocents, to the LAPD's careless response by shooting at ladies on a paper route and eventually burning a man alive in their zeal.

There were zero winners in this altercation.

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Precisely. No one's hands are clean here.

I just saw this clip on YouTube which shows, very well, the spirit of that day, the day of the service for Jeremiah MacKay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_dlqqjfOUA

A great vidieo OC. Thanks so much for posting it.