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Utilikilt functional issue...
I've been wearing my UK Workman quite a bit lately, not only around the house but out on the town as well. And while I find it to be a comfortable and practical garment, there's one little thing that bugs me.
When I walk, I can feel the narrow inner apron going between my legs, especially the left edge of the inner apron where it's hemmed. I'm used to traditional kilts with their wider inner aprons that stay on the fronts of my thighs (and that wrap around to my left side), not folding in between my legs. It started off as a minor annoyance, but the more I wear this UK, the more I notice it.
I realize, of course, that the narrow front aprons is part of what makes the UK different, and that it's supposed to fold down between your legs when you sit, for modesty. And I'll give it props for that: it does make sitting less of a concern. But I'm not sure I care for it when I'm walking. When I get up, I shake the apron out so it's on the fronts of my legs, but it goes right back between them when I take off walking. It feels like that left-side hemmed edge folds in at my upper thigh and wants to stay there, rubbing my thigh as I walk, instead of moving back out to the fronts of my legs where it belongs.
1. Have you noticed this on your UK as well? If so, does it bother you? Is it something I should just get used to and stop whining about?
2. Is there any quick fix to the walking issue without changing the way it drapes when I sit?
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I've found a quick "hand chop" to the front apron when sitting is superior to the narrow apron.
I'm not aware of any fixes to the apron situation except to sell the UK and get a cargo style kilt with a wider apron. My PK MarPat has the wider apron that falls hits just past the center line of my quads. When walking it stays in front but when sitting it falls between the legs, preserving the mystery. PK is no longer making kilts but there are several others who do wider aprons.
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Owned four UK Workman's and don't recall that feeling.
Did have problems with the modesty snap male side catching itself in cheap plastic outdoor chairs and standing up with the chair attached to my backside....embarrasing.
Freedom Kilts makes a cargo kilt with a wide apron and under apron.
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I ordered a kilt from Kilt This! one of my specifications is wider front aprons. will review once they get to my name in line. Think I still have a month left on the waiting list.
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I wear my UK workman on one of my jobs. I have tended to shift the centerline of the kilt a little to the left for walking any distance, then shifting center for work/sitting. This overcame the chafing of the inner apron issue for me.
As mentioned by others, the Freedom Kilt does not have this problem as the inner apron is full width, and tailored to slip between and out on its own.
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Does your workman have the "Full snaps" my this i mean. 5 snaps up both sided of the front apron. I have a original that was made before that add on, and a Mocker that has it.. the mocker never slips down, but the Original always slips.. i have thought about adding a small piece of Velcro to keep the other side up where it belongs
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Does your workman have the "Full snaps" my this i mean. 5 snaps up both sided of the front apron.
Mine is brand-new, only had it about a month. It does indeed have 5 snaps on both sides of the apron (see pic below, although some are hidden by my belt). The issue seems to be that the inner apron's edge happens to fall on just the right place on my left leg that it wants to fold inward, not stay flat on the front of my leg. And this then causes the whole inner apron to want to curve between my legs, so I feel like I need to pick the darn thing out from between my legs while walking.
I may need to take a picture of the inner apron's edge and how it falls on my leg, with the outer apron pulled up, to illustrate the problem. I'm wondering if adding a tie or snap or some other connection on the inner apron's edge to fasten it to the outer apron would help.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/06...Sniper/UK1.jpg
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I own a Survivor and a Workman, both made last year I believe. I've had no such apron problem- although unlike with the Survivor, I haven't walked very far with the Workman on- for sure I would hate to get that baby chafing on me. Anyway if I'm allowed a guess, I would suggest it may be more a question of fit than of design.
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I bought one of the used Retro Red UKs. It arrived today, so I put it on and immediately went for a walk (with this thread in mind). I had no comfort problem with the inner apron (or the kilt as a whole). I could feel the apron edge hitting the front of my left leg, but would not even have been aware of it if I hadn't been alerted by this thread! BTW, I guess it's an older style "Original" with only 3 snaps on each apron side....
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I wore my Workman yestersay for the first time since this post and noticed that the apron edge was rubbing against my leg, which I can't say I ever noticed before. I guess it is kind of like suddenly being aware of your tongue in your mouth.
The apron didn't bother me at all - I just noticed it. I think once the fabric softens up it won't be a problem.
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Try easing the front of the kilt up a little, tilting the apron outwards.
It might only be a matter of half an inch, but it should alter the angle just enough to create more room for movement.
Anne the Pleater :ootd:
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I own a workman as well as other models of the UK. I've never experienced the issues you speak of, but perhaps that's because I typically only wear my workman when I've a hammer and other tools hanging off it (maybe that makes it hang different).
The UK's are a great outfit, but this week I checked out their website and was shocked to see their current prices. It reminded me of when I used to ride Honda Motorcycles, then went in to trade my third Honda on a bigger model and the cost equaled a Harley. Long story short I bought the Harley and never looked back. I love the UK's for hiking. roofing, or doing outside labor in, but there's nothing like a full-pleated tartan kilt, which now UK's price matches. I still wear my UK's, so don't get me wrong, but perhaps it's something to think about.
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Over time, I've just gotten used to it, especially with all the hiking I do kilted. The only time it really bothers me now is if I'm walking into the wind. The wind will push the front aprons so that they fold between my knees, and it just feels a bit awkward. Plus the canvas-like duck cloth makes a stupid swishing sound as I walk when it's doing that.
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I occasionally notice this with my Mocker, especially if I have my epipen or a little change in my right pocket. I don't notice this so much with my Original. I just attributed it to my mocker being one of the ones where they tried a new vendor to mass produce them, and didn't like the quality control, so sold them off at a nice discount.
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One thing you might try is Velcro. They make an iron on type that you can get at fabric stores, and if you put a small piece on the outside of the inner apron and the inside of the outer apron, it should hold the apron in place nicely.
I have used it on cotton flannel, and it has a good hold. Not sure how well it will work on the duck cloth.
If you think you might go that route I have some scraps of duck cloth and some of those velcro strips, and could fire up the iron and tell you how well it holds. Just let me know.
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I've not noticed it with my original.
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