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    Question for kiltmakers

    I've been gathering kiltmaking information for a while and.. I think I can.. I think I can..

    But I have to ask, because you good folks still have all your hair and are not in the loony bin. How do you not go completely bonkers during all that hand sewing and still produce a beautiful kilt? That has to be in the neighbourhood of 30 hours of hand sewing. Being hearing impaired, I can't really listen to the tv or radio while sewing and if I take my eyes off the sewing I'll end up sewing my fingers to the kilt.

    If I could just find that book that teaches patience..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardchoille View Post
    if I take my eyes off the sewing I'll end up sewing my fingers to the kilt.
    I just did that today! and i was watching the whole time. I got the needle though the callus on my left index finger (the one under the pleat), and didn't notice until I tried to move my hand.

    As to patience, I can do some things and not others. Even the things I can do, sometimes make me appreciate how a couple of hundred dollars worth of an expert's time can be a bargain! I guess the bottom line is to try it, and see whether you enjoy it.

    I'm working on a practice piece with expendable cloth from the fabric store. I had done a bit of preparation and mark-up, and this afternoon (being off work) sewed about 8 pleats' worth. I was working on how to make small stitches, and still be sure I'm getting through all 3 layers of fabric. Hence the unwary index finger.

    I've made 2 X-kilts (well almost 2, I'm also easily distracted), and am knitting my second pair of hose. I find this all enjoyable, it's just a question of when I can afford the time to have fun with it. Most often, I try to work a little while on a project, and then get back to my daily chores. You may find that a tractable approach, if you can keep the thread of continuity of the project when you come back to it.
    Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
    gainfully unemployed systems programmer

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    With any long needlework project (and knitting and weaving), I usually set a kitchen timer. Work for a set time, then get up, move around (check x marks or one of my other forums....), take the dog for a run around the block, whatever.

    That breaks up the project into managable chunks when it is not going well, and keeps me from getting an eyestrain headache or swollen feet from sitting too long if it is going so well that I loose track of the time. (And sometimes both of those extremes can happen one right after another on the SAME project!).

    So tackle each pleat as it's own little mini project. You'll get through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreadBbdr View Post
    With any long needlework project (and knitting and weaving), I usually set a kitchen timer. Work for a set time, then get up, move around (check x marks or one of my other forums....), take the dog for a run around the block, whatever.

    So tackle each pleat as it's own little mini project. You'll get through them.
    Sounds like excellent advice. I do have a timer that I can plug a desk lamp into so that the lamp blinks on and off when the timer is "ringing".

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    I've done lots of hand crafts in my life, everything from hand weaving to finish carpentry. I get inspired to knit every time I go to Iceland to teach field geology and I see all the fabulous wool. So I buy wool, and I knit hats as we're driving from place to place. And most of the students (even the guys!) buy wool and learn how to knit to pass the time while we're driving on crummy, rainy days. But I'm good for only a few hats or a sweater every couple years. I get _really bored_ when I'm knitting because it's the same thing over and over and over until you get done , even if what you're knitting has a pattern. I find the same thing with embroidery and needlepoint.

    My mom has asked me many times whether I'm tired of making kilts yet (she's a hand weaver). What I tell her is the thing I like about kiltmaking is that each part of the process is different. Just about the time I've had enough of stitching pleats, the pleats are done, and it's time to do the next step, etc. etc. And each tartan is different, so it's not as repetitious as making, say, velveteen vests for Highland dancers. So I actually don't get bored making kilts. There are parts I like better than others (for some reason, I hate putting on the buckles - probably because, in the first kilt I made, I must have sewn each buckle on three times before I got it right). And it's not a trivial thing that I really enjoy the people I make kilts for - many of them I've never met in person, but we've emailed or talked over the phone, and that's a really important thing to me.
    Kiltmaker, piper, and geologist (one of the few, the proud, with brains for rocks....
    Member, Scottish Tartans Authority
    Geology stuff (mostly) at http://people.hamilton.edu/btewksbu
    The Art of Kiltmaking at http://theartofkiltmaking.com

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    I have great respect for anybody who has the patience to make anything. I just don't have the patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ardchoille View Post
    Sounds like excellent advice. I do have a timer that I can plug a desk lamp into so that the lamp blinks on and off when the timer is "ringing".
    I can do 1, 2, or sometimes 3 pleats before I have to stand and walk. Sometimes the walk takes me to Xmarks, sometimes it's just a lap around the house. The thumb takes the most beating (pain). I have to give it a rest and a get up and stretch, move, and rest the thumb works for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T. View Post
    My mom has asked me many times whether I'm tired of making kilts yet (she's a hand weaver). What I tell her is the thing I like about kiltmaking is that each part of the process is different. Just about the time I've had enough of stitching pleats, the pleats are done, and it's time to do the next step, etc. etc. And each tartan is different, so it's not as repetitious as making, say, velveteen vests for Highland dancers. So I actually don't get bored making kilts. There are parts I like better than others (for some reason, I hate putting on the buckles - probably because, in the first kilt I made, I must have sewn each buckle on three times before I got it right). And it's not a trivial thing that I really enjoy the people I make kilts for - many of them I've never met in person, but we've emailed or talked over the phone, and that's a really important thing to me.
    Yes, every kilt is different. I "engineer" (yes, I are one) each kilt to the specifications given by the client. There are pleatings to the sett or stripe. Pleating to the sett is complex only with complex tartans with a lot of elements. Pleating to the stripe involves communication with the client to determine which stripe looks best. It is the thought process that keeps my mind occupied.

    I also like to exceede the expectations of the client.

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    A day without killting is like a day without sunshine.

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    How do you know that our kiltmakers have all their own hair? i know for a fact that Steve's hair is the finest P-V available and loonie bin? We haven't heard from Robert in some time...

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    I'm afraid most of my distractions are audible - I know about 300 songs, mostly English and Scottish folk songs and so I sing to myself when I feel the need, also listen to BBC Radio 4 or various recordings, also, I can only take the precision of kilt making for so long and then I go and do something else around the house - there is nothing like sorting clothes for washing or similar household work to make the next pleat seem really enticing.

    I do other things such as knitting by hand and machine, combining yarns to knit with, that is just making thicker ones from thin stuff, but it takes time to wind and sometimes spin them together. I also do rugs, patchwork, a bit of gardening, and there is always as a last resort, housework.

    As for all my hair - it used to be a lot thicker and darker in places that are now all shiny and silvery, all this craft stuff can take its toll, but at least I know how to create a wig if I ever need one.
    I presume to dictate to no man what he shall eat or drink or wherewithal he shall be clothed."
    -- The Hon. Stuart Ruaidri Erskine, The Kilt & How to Wear It, 1901.

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    Patience:
    The art of being patient.

    Patient:
    1: bearing pains or trials calmly or without complaint
    2: manifesting forbearance under provocation or strain
    3: not hasty or impetuous
    4: steadfast despite opposition, difficulty, or adversity

    Where in the world does having patience come into the joy of making a kilt? Maybe, it's the patience in able to bear getting up and having to put the kilt down? Maybe, it's having the patience in hearing the phone ring and knowing you're the one who has to answer it. Maybe, it's having the patience to wait until you get home from work before you can start sewing again. Maybe, it's the patience you exert in having to wait until the kilt is done before you wear it.

    I think you get the drift. For me, there is no patience involved in sewing the kilt. There are challenges certainly in the beginning stages and and at times while sewing, but I find the work enjoyable and relaxing for the most part.

    I guess for those who don't enjoy it or for whom find sewing a chore, kiltmaking may be a different experience for them.

    ps. this is mho and ymmv
    pps. i wish i had the patience to wait for a length of tartan to make another kilt.....
    Last edited by Dixiecat; 14th May 08 at 10:46 AM.

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