Thoughts on this jacket

[rondo]

Does anyone have first hand experience with this particular jacket?
http://www.kiltmakers.com/kilts-and-...ansman-doublet
To me it looks like a sherrifmuir but in the description they distinctly say that it is to be worn only with a Jacobite shirt. Why would that be? It is not possible to see the collar treatment due to how the model is posed, perhaps there is no collar at all. How would you wear this jacket?
Rondo

[creagdhubh]

I have no personal experience with this style of jacket, but you are correct in saying that it is indeed reminiscent of the Sheriffmuir doublet, minus the high collar. I think the premise behind this jacket basically caters to the more casual realm of Highland dress, but that's not to say that this particular jacket couldn't be dressed up with the appropriate accessories for a black tie event. This jacket appears more unstructured than your typical Highland evening jacket or doublet, and it may not be made of 100% Barathea wool, which is a much more common choice of fabric for evening affairs (as well as silk/cotton velvet).

The description states, "Jacobite jackets and waistcoats must only be worn with Jacobite shirts." Whereas 'they' are definitely catering this particular style of jacket to be worn with the very relaxed, causual and borderline costume-like "Jacobite" shirt, again, I don't think you have to necessarily limit its use to casual events. It actually seems like a rather versatile piece. From my personal standpoint, this style is not for me and I would not wear it, but that's just my personal preference and sartorial taste.

[artificer]

IMO the less structured nature of the jacket (internal) would take it down a step in formality from a more traditional doublet.

If you look at the softness of the shoulders (both at the seam of the arm and from that point upward toward the neck) as well as the less tailored
chest you can see what I'm referring to.

I think this would probably look a bit out of place in a room filled with traditionally made doublets, coatees, and saxon jackets.

ith:

[creagdhubh]

IMO the less structured nature of the jacket (internal) would take it down a step in formality from a more traditional doublet.

If you look at the softness of the shoulders (both at the seam of the arm and from that point upward toward the neck) as well as the less tailored
chest you can see what I'm referring to.

I think this would probably look a bit out of place in a room filled with traditionally made doublets, coatees, and saxon jackets. ith:

I agree, Scott. It would definitely look out of place with other gents wearing tailored coatees, doublets and Saxon jackets. And for the price (they're asking 220 quid), I'd put that money towards a traditionally made doublet. However, I will reiterate the fact that if on a pinch, this particular style could possibly work for certain black tie events. Yet, with so many better suited options out there, why bother? I've seen rather 'frumpy,' unstructured doublets (one was even missing a button!) made of velvet at various Clan Macpherson events, yet I think they looked that way mainly because they were old garments that had been passed down and not something fairly new or freshly bought.

[MacRobert's Reply]

I have seen one of these jackets, or something very similar. It had a round neck and appeared to be less tailored than a Sheriffmuir doublet. The one I saw also had built in shoulder shells (like an Elizabethian doublet) and plain cuffs. The whole look was pseudo jacobite rather than THD.

[McMurdo]

The phrase that comes to mind is neither fish nor foul. I would steer clear of such a jacket and put my money toward a Sherrifmuir or Montrose Doublet.

[creagdhubh]

I have seen one of these jackets, or something very similar. It had a round neck and appeared to be less tailored than a Sheriffmuir doublet. The one I saw also had built in shoulder shells (like an Elizabethian doublet) and plain cuffs. The whole look was pseudo jacobite rather than THD.

Wow! Now, that sounds like a rather odd looking jacket. Hmmm...on second thought, perhaps this style of jacket isn't as versatile as I thought! It's difficult to gauge any of this without actually seeing/feeling/wearing the jacket in person.

[Llama]

The style with the capped sleeves, that looks more like a jerkin, is here: http://www.heritageofscotland.com/Ch...96,product.php

[plaid preacher]

I think you are right. There is no stand-up collar...and if you look really closely at the photos I do believe there is a shoulder shell or cap. It isn't really clear, but I was thinking the shoulders looked a little odd.

[MacCathmhaoil]

It's pretend wear, some one's idea of what doublet from the 18th century would look like........ Not unlike the Jacobite shirts with the puffy sleeves and laces.

McMurdo is right it's neither fish nor foul, put your money to something less costume-y. For the same price you could get a decent Argyll or pay for a good portion of a very nice doublet.