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28th June 09, 10:42 AM
#1
Kilts And Giving Service - Is There A Connection?
First, I mean this as a philosophical question, not a poll.
So many men who wear kilts seem to have been men who also provide service; Military Service, Police Service, Fire Service, Healthcare Service, and Corrections Service.
Yes, there are others who work and volunteer in other areas, nothing at all against them.
Wondering if the apparent high number of kilted men in service areas, or with a history of such service, is to be expected -i.e. proportionate to the percent of men in service areas without considering kilts - or if men who provide service are more drawn to the kilt?
Hope that's clear....?
Whatcha think?
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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28th June 09, 11:15 AM
#2
I certainly can't speak for everyone, nor would I attempt to of course. But, I find my military service to be completely unrelated to wearing my kilt. I wanted a kilt long before I wore BDUs.
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28th June 09, 11:17 AM
#3
Very interesting observation...I was in the Army for ten yeas, and still work for the Army as a civilian, 3 others that I work with are all prior military, all kilted...very curious..
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28th June 09, 11:53 AM
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Interesting thread, Ron. I think it has to do with the fact that the majority of us who are interested in the kilt are interested because of feelings of heritage and connection. Those looking for a societal connection are far more likely to want to put time into a profession with societal value, such as the military, police, firefighters, or healthcare. Again, as Ron stated, not to disparage any other calling, but to the average person these professions are what people think of when they think of socially valuable professions.
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28th June 09, 12:11 PM
#5
Ron, This is an interesting subject.
I for one have NEVER, thought of my "prior", Mill. or LEO as having a relationship to my wear a KILT.
But I do know that quite a number of prior"service types" do 
Perhaps, we do because,
1. We are not insecure about who we are ???
2. We feel we have "earned" the right to wear what we please, & to HECK with what others think ??
Puffer
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28th June 09, 12:36 PM
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I believe that the two are related.. look at the kilt wearers in this forum... you have very strong personality traits.. which are needed for both, the military/ police/ firefighter/ medical/ service industry fields, as well as the will to wear the kilt amoungst the non kilted world we live in.. is this an exclusive paring?.. no.. but I feel the personality traits is the big part of the formula. We do have those in the forum, who do not fit that career field, but their personalities do match with the others who do...
“Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.”
– Robert Louis Stevenson
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28th June 09, 12:45 PM
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I think those that enter a service are proud to wear a uniform 9not saying that they enter for the uniform). Kilts can also be seen as an article of uniform style clothing while some serices include kilts as part of the uniform. I for one would love a kilt to be a part of my dress uniform but alas it is not 9that doesn't stop me from pucshing for it though!).
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28th June 09, 01:58 PM
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heh
I was actually verbally asso=aulted by a bunch of marines while wearing my kilt one night. The My brother in law, also a marine, Also HATEs the kilt. ( he has to wear one for my wifes wedding HAHA) So every marine I have come across has done nothing but talk out of their #%@$.
So it works both ways it seems.
I always thought it was odd that Military types would choose to disrespect the kilt. Who knew?
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28th June 09, 03:39 PM
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 Originally Posted by Dan R Porter
I was actually verbally asso=aulted by a bunch of marines while wearing my kilt one night. The My brother in law, also a marine, Also HATEs the kilt. ( he has to wear one for my wifes wedding HAHA) So every marine I have come across has done nothing but talk out of their #%@$.
So it works both ways it seems.
I always thought it was odd that Military types would choose to disrespect the kilt. Who knew?
Odd indeed. I have found most Marines (upper case please) have no problem with it, being a group very devoted to freedom in general. I apologize for my rude brothers-in-arms.
As to the general question of the relationship to service and kilt wearing, I think there is a relationship, albeit not cause and effect. Most men in the military, LEO, firefighting, etc., are self-confident, masculine men. So are most kilt wearing men, so the is a strong overlap. Also, there is a strong cultural tendency, at least in the United States, for men of Celtic background, Scottish, Irish and Welsh particularly, enter the military, even if not for a career, or law enforcement/fire fighting. So Again, and tendency to overlap
Last edited by Geoff Withnell; 28th June 09 at 03:40 PM.
Reason: fix typo
Geoff Withnell
"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
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29th June 09, 09:51 AM
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 Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell
Also, there is a strong cultural tendency, at least in the United States, for men of Celtic background, Scottish, Irish and Welsh particularly, enter the military, even if not for a career, or law enforcement/fire fighting. So Again, and tendency to overlap
In my case, while I have not served in the military, I am serving on city council and have done so in the past for over 10 years. I keep active in local politics and committees to do what I can for the area. I think it IS a trait of Celtic blood to be in some sort of service to their fellow men and women.
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