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8th October 09, 07:56 AM
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Tartans of Britany the French are Kilted
I recently bought my first kilt, all tough I have no or thought I had no actual ancestry in Scotland or Ireland. After doing some research I found that the region of Bretagne in France, which is the north western most region of France, is actually of Gaelic heritage. turns out after many months of research I can trace my roots back to at least the early 1400's, all the way back to Nante, Bretagne, France.
So this peaked my interest even more , maybe there are tartans for France ? seeing as it was Gaelic at one time. Well there are tartans. They can be found here http://www.tartanbreton.com/.
The reason why I posted this is that I would like any one with information on how I can get my hands on either the Normand Tartan or the Bro-Naoned Tartan or even just general information on this topic let me know let us all know.
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8th October 09, 08:30 AM
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I beleive Hamish has one or two kilts in the Breton tartans, if my memory is correct from la Maison du Kilt in Paris. You might want to PM him with questions.
Brian
In a democracy it's your vote that counts; in feudalism, it's your Count that votes.
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8th October 09, 10:02 AM
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The Bretons (ex-Britons) were P Celtic speakers not Q Celtic speakers, their Lingo was closer to Welsh, or more properly Cornish as opposed to Gaelic. However they are still very much part of the Celtic fringe and have had to put up with French prejudice against their language as all the other Celtic peoples have at one time or another.
Good luck with the Tartans.
Last edited by Sawney Bean; 8th October 09 at 01:18 PM.
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8th October 09, 10:40 AM
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That's right. Although it would probably be more accurate to say Breton is a Brythonic (P-Celtic) language as it is still used today. Yes, it is very close to Cornish. The Ancient Gaulish language was in the P-Celtic family as well. The relationship between Cornish and Breton is not dissimilar to that between Irish and Scottish Gaelic.
The eastern portion of Brittany speaks Gallo, which is a Romance language. It, too, is under threat from French language dominance. Since it belongs to the same family it is easier to absorb and assimilate. I wonder how many Québécois are descended from Bretons, given that the Bretons were well-known explorers and sailors?
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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8th October 09, 11:10 AM
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Brian is absolutely correct. I have superb kilts in three of the Breton tartans: Le National Breton, le Randonnée Bretonne (or Brittany Walking tartan) and the Bro-Leon, the last two being among my all-time favourites of all my 98 kilts.
All three were ordered through La Maison du Kilt in Paris (address is at the foot of their website). I believe the tartans are woven by the House of Edgar in Scotland although they are not listed on the HoE website.
Apart from a love of the Breton countryside and its people, I have no connections with that part of the world. I selected the tartans to represent that important part of the old Celtic nations within my 'Kollection'. All the others are represented with the exception of Galicia. (Note to self: must do something about that 'ere long!).
Take care,
Ham.
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9th October 09, 08:08 AM
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 Originally Posted by Hamish
Brian is absolutely correct. I have superb kilts in three of the Breton tartans: Le National Breton, le Randonnée Bretonne (or Brittany Walking tartan) and the Bro-Leon, the last two being among my all-time favourites of all my 98 kilts.
All three were ordered through La Maison du Kilt in Paris (address is at the foot of their website). I believe the tartans are woven by the House of Edgar in Scotland although they are not listed on the HoE website.
Apart from a love of the Breton countryside and its people, I have no connections with that part of the world. I selected the tartans to represent that important part of the old Celtic nations within my 'Kollection'. All the others are represented with the exception of Galicia. (Note to self: must do something about that 'ere long!).
Take care,
Ham.
Thank you for your consideration, Hamish. I have recently gotten a kilt in the Galician tartan. I must remember to post photos soon!
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10th October 09, 07:32 AM
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 Originally Posted by slohairt
That's right. Although it would probably be more accurate to say Breton is a Brythonic (P-Celtic) language as it is still used today. Yes, it is very close to Cornish. The Ancient Gaulish language was in the P-Celtic family as well. The relationship between Cornish and Breton is not dissimilar to that between Irish and Scottish Gaelic.
The eastern portion of Brittany speaks Gallo, which is a Romance language. It, too, is under threat from French language dominance. Since it belongs to the same family it is easier to absorb and assimilate. I wonder how many Québécois are descended from Bretons, given that the Bretons were well-known explorers and sailors?
From the research I've done i the last few days, the majority of Quebecois are either Normand and Breton descendants.
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8th October 09, 11:01 PM
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Please check out this link:
http://www.thefind.com/homefurnishin...-breton-fabric
This will allow you to get fabric to send to your favourite kilt maker.

Best,
Robert
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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9th October 09, 12:09 AM
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Beware of la maison du kilt, it seams to me they are not very "serious" because of their monopolistic position in France. They take a lot of time to please the customer.... But, britons tartan are very beautiful !
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10th October 09, 07:34 AM
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I have spoken to Lady Chrystel, she has told me that it would be a great honor for her to make any kilt in the Breton tartans.
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