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    Hodden Gray kilt fabric...where?

    I saw on another forum a member who has scored a vintage, still basted London Scottish kilt from the 50's. I get a jones for this style about once a year, and its once again reared its head again for this year. I've never really looked for it, but I never see it marketed to the general public. Since it is a distinct regimental color, I assume its woven special for London and Toronto Scottish regiments. I guess I just answered my question, but does anyone know where to get this fabric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalPiper View Post
    I saw on another forum a member who has scored a vintage, still basted London Scottish kilt from the 50's. I get a jones for this style about once a year, and its once again reared its head again for this year. I've never really looked for it, but I never see it marketed to the general public. Since it is a distinct regimental color, I assume its woven special for London and Toronto Scottish regiments. I guess I just answered my question, but does anyone know where to get this fabric?
    Have you tried the Regiments themselves. They often have excess clothing and/or know where you might find one.

    The modern cloth differs from the older, pre-1960s, cloth in that the recent weave has a much more purple hue compared with the original which was browner. I have a cWWI London Scottish kilt that I will post an image of when I get time.

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    Can anyone comment on the weave and yarn. Is it a tweed? is the cloth worsted woven twill or is it felted like coat wool, or?

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    The pinkish/purple tones have come out a bit vivid in this pic. I don't really know what terminology to use to describe the Hodden Grey, it's a bit like an old fashioned blanket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor View Post
    Can anyone comment on the weave and yarn. Is it a tweed? is the cloth worsted woven twill or is it felted like coat wool, or?
    Worsted twill weave and yes, technically it's a tweed rather than a tartan as incidentally was the original Balmoral 'tartan'. The modern cloth is more felted than the older stuff, probably because they changed the wool type.

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    I really want a hodden grey kilt sooooo badly. That and a Tyneside Scottish (see this thread from Chris (Redshank) of Dunadd Trading Co.)

    Never seen a hodden grey for sale anywhere and as Josh says the fabric is not generally available.

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    Hodden grey wool was historically a "common man's" fabric, woven of undyed dark and light yarns, and used for coarse garb such as soldiers' and sailors' coats, etc.

    The twill-weave kersey "mixed grey" here would work, and at 22 oz. would make a substantial kilt:

    http://www.wmboothdraper.com/store/i...roducts_id=695
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    I happen to have a friend/occasional drinking mate who is a Major in the Toronto Scottish and even he won't get the fabric for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    ... The twill-weave kersey "mixed grey" here would work, and at 22 oz. would make a substantial kilt:
    I like that very much Woodsheal, but hodden grey has more of a pinkness...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bing View Post
    I happen to have a friend/occasional drinking mate who is a Major in the Toronto Scottish and even he won't get the fabric for me.
    Hahahaha! There's a word for people like him... either that or he's not best mates with the QM. Have a word with him and tell him there is a hefty market out there and it would be a subtle way of boosting their Regimental welfare fund.

    In all seriousness, it does seem to be very closely guarded. Probably to keep shallow idiots like me away from it. Not a bad thing really and if I'm honest, I don't mind in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Bloke View Post
    I like that very much Woodsheal, but hodden grey has more of a pinkness...
    Not originally. The hodden grey soldiers' coats of the 17th/18th centuries were decidedly grey, or a brownish-grey in some instances. Latter day kilts acquired their "pinkness" from God knows where...
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