Got the King Kilt

**bubba** · 30th September 04, 07:57 AM

I sent fabric straps and buckles to King Kilts to have a traditional style made. I'll start off by saying the stictching and construction is excellent. There is a problem however. What I got back is a skirt, not a kilt. There is no reverse pleat and the pleats run in the wrong direction. Needless to say, I sure can't wear it. Now I guess I should find a woman with a 42 inch waist to give it to. To say the least, it was disappointing.

**Freelander Sporrano** · 30th September 04, 08:01 AM

Poor you Bubba

Someone's trying to tell you that there is nothing as good as your own handiwork.

I dare say you can get a refund

Cheer up....All the best....David

**Rigged** · 30th September 04, 08:59 AM

Well I checked out the King Kilts gallery:
http://www.adamsweb.us/kingkilts/gallery.htm

On their policy page is:

"We will NOT and cannot assist irate customers. Becoming irate will void all policies except the privacy policy as well as any solutions a King Kilts Representative may have previously offered you."

I don't recall ever seeing such a policy statement before.

Adam's wife makes the kilts. Here's her website: http://www.crossspot.net/allforchrist/news.html

She seems like a nice lady.

**bubba** · 30th September 04, 09:37 AM

I'm not irrate actually and no remedy was offered or implied. Since I supplied the materials all I'm out really is the labor and I'm sure some lady will enjoy it. I only posted because I said I would let folks know how it went. No, I'm not upset and Andreas handiwork is very good quality. I did let them know the problem when I got it. I have no doubt Elijah and Andrea are nice people Nor am I impugning the craftsmanship. The bottom line is I can't wear the product without being a crossdresser so it'll likely go to St Vincent de Paul and someone will be very pleased with it. Meantime, back to doing it myself.

**Rigged** · 30th September 04, 10:35 AM

I'm sorry, Bubba. I was being too subtle and you missed my point.

Sometimes photographs on websites aren't a good representation of the item in reality, but the King Kilts look to me like skirts.

They lack the styling and the military-like precision of detail and sharpness of line that, to my eye, marks the difference between a tailored kilt and a skirt. It's that precision that, to me, projects a masculine appearance.

The fact that the website has a disclaimer regarding "irate" customers indicates that it's a common enough occurrance that they have a policy about it.

That's the point I was trying to make, but perhaps I was treading too lightly.

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 30th September 04, 11:04 AM

Bubba,

Rather than plop it on the backside of someone else, it's possible to take it and make it work. I've had to do some INCREDIBLE transformations on a number of kilts.

If you would like to fork-over for the postage both ways, I would be more than happy to see what I can do with it. No charge at all (since I can't do that anyway) but it's worth seeing if a remedy is in order. I like a good challenge.

Just let me know buddy.

**bubba** · 30th September 04, 11:16 AM

Jimmy, I appreciate the offer, but it really isn't worth the bother. I don't have much tied up in it at all. The fabric wasn't expensive and I do have another kilt in that fabric, I'm just hunting leather for the straps. Yeah, I cut my own straps too.

I can let this one go to a good cause for local charity.
Rigged, sorry about that. Too much blood in my caffine system yet.

The kilt I'm working on now is heavy enough that I'll be doing alot of hand stitching. 15 oz wool gets pretty thick in the pleating. Should keep me occupied for awhile. After the medical bills get caught up I just might be able to buy a couple professionally made kilts instead of wearing my fingers to the bone.

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 30th September 04, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by bubba

Jimmy, I appreciate the offer, but it really isn't worth the bother. I don't have much tied up in it at all.

If you change your mind... I'm here.

You would be absolutely AMAZED at just how many kilts I'm altering since selling-over USAKilts. Between too large... too small... not short enough... not long enough... front aprons folding OUT... under aprons hanging too low... pleats puckering... etc., etc., etc... I'm busier now. I'm altering kilts from companies that I didn't even know existed! And it's all done for free, in order to keep guys happy in the kilts. Nice hobby!

**Avonlea22** · 30th September 04, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb

Originally Posted by bubba

Jimmy, I appreciate the offer, but it really isn't worth the bother. I don't have much tied up in it at all.

If you change your mind... I'm here.

You would be absolutely AMAZED at just how many kilts I'm altering since selling-over USAKilts. Between too large... too small... not short enough... not long enough... front aprons folding OUT... under aprons hanging too low... pleats puckering... etc., etc., etc... I'm busier now. I'm altering kilts from companies that I didn't even know existed! And it's all done for free, in order to keep guys happy in the kilts. Nice hobby!

Wow, you learn a lot here. I didn't know you used to own USAK! And you tailor for free! I'll keep that in mind. lol. :P

**bubba** · 30th September 04, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb

If you change your mind... I'm here.

Jimmy, I can imagine you've seen some real dandies. The only things wrong with this one is no reverse pleat and the pleating goes the wrong way. That makes it a skirt, not a kilt. As little as I have invested it isn't worth the bother to convert a skirt into a kilt. I do enjoy making my own though so it isn't a problem.