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**chasem** · 15th August 05, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by toadinakilt

Oi, that'll have to wait a few years, Gator :-D
No sex 'til we're married, that's what we're both committed to. But AFTER...I'll be sure and remember your advice

Awesome, Toad. Myself and the girl I am dating have also made this commitment. It's tough, but I am sure it will be well worth it in the end

**Jerry** · 16th August 05, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by toadinakilt

Nope. She wouldn't. I just want to avoid stupid issues, so that if something BIG comes up there won't be small stuff to add to the friction.
And man, you know, there can be a lot of stupid small stuff.

A woman can remember, in detail, every little argument you have had, even if it was over 20 years before. Something will come up, that upsets her, and you'll hear, "You forgot my birthday" Before thinking, you'll put your foot in your mouth and say something like, "Your birthday isn't for another two months", only to hear, "No, I meant back in 1985," Then she gets even more upset because you didn't remember you forgot. Women, we can't live with them and we definitely can't live without them.

**Archangel** · 16th August 05, 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by JerMc

A woman can remember, in detail, every little argument you have had, even if it was over 20 years before. Something will come up, that upsets her, and you'll hear, "You forgot my birthday" Before thinking, you'll put your foot in your mouth and say something like, "Your birthday isn't for another two months", only to hear, "No, I meant back in 1985," Then she gets even more upset because you didn't remember you forgot. Women, we can't live with them and we definitely can't live without them.

this kind is known as "the wrong one", unhook gently and quickly, throw her back in the water until you catch a keeper. It is better she gets a chance to mature in her own environment.

**Doc Hudson** · 16th August 05, 03:18 AM

Jerry's correct!

And they never forget a slight or injury no matter how minor.

15 years ago, shortly after we married, a friend and his family stayed with us a few days, Reb helped with some remodling chores beyond my skills. While here, Reb cooked his kids some breakfast on a non-stick griddle and he used a metal spatula, which scratched the finish. I still hear about that from time to time even though I bought here a new griddle years ago.

When I first ordered my kilt, my wife voiced opposition. After it arrived, we had a pretty hot arguement. She was basing her opinion on fear of what other people might think about me, and by reflection her. It went so far that I actually almost tossed my kilt in the trash, but instead hung it in a storage closet with no intention of ever looking at it again. After a day or so, I decided to make one more effort to reason with her. I let her know that I didn't give a damn about anyone else's opinion. The only one that mattered to me was her. I pointed out the fact that I'd often in the past been the target of scornful looks and remarks because of how I dressed and other than the ocassional brawl, I didn't care what others thought. I let her know that I loved her and if it meant that much to her, I'd not wear the kilt around her, but wear it I would. After this, she actually apologized, and said that I was right, public opinion didn't make any difference. She's still not real happy about me wearing my kilt, but at least she is not strongly opposed. (It didn't hurt that a snotty friend, who is fast on the way to becoming a former friend, made snotty remarks about not "letting him wear that thing.)

The only thing that I can think of that might change your girlfriend's mind faster than ogles from other girls, is an attack by some Holier-Than-Thou know it all "friend."

So take your time, be reasonable, not arguementative, and gradually increase the amount fo kilted time as davedove suggested in the first response to this thread.

**richardljohnson** · 16th August 05, 05:04 AM

18 months ago I made the choice to wear a kilt in my 'off' hours'. I can't wear it at work (would if could) but my wife "understood". She knew I had a kilts I would wear at special events (games or special events) before we got married. I stopped for about 15 years. Why? Don't really remember but when I started back she questioned me on it. I explained that the kilt was part of my family becuase of both family sides tracing back to Scotland and I felt 'Scottish at heart'. I admit to being Texan at heart also, so, when that happens Bluejeans and hat come out and ALWAYS heading toward the BBQ table!

Start slowly and gradually build. I've been on a cruise ship, touring Mexico and going to Walmart kilted. Now it's odd to NOT see me in a kilt. She even ask why I'm not wearing a kilt on those few weekends I don't wear one!

1. Express your desire to wear a kilt.
2. Wear a kilt to special events (parties, weddings, etc (the best response I ever got was wearing a kilt to a tradational Mexican wedding! The preist loved it and the guys in the Marachi band thought it was great also...besides after a few shots at the reception nobody noticed!)
3. You WILL get comments, more good than bad. If she is around she will hear these and they will also sway her.

Hope this will give you another perspective...

Richard-

**Alan H** · 16th August 05, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by chasem

Awesome, Toad. Myself and the girl I am dating have also made this commitment. It's tough, but I am sure it will be well worth it in the end

It will. Trust me on this. If you are someone who thinks it will be worth it, it will be worth it.

**Freelander Sporrano** · 16th August 05, 10:22 AM

Sorry I'm late on this one...

When I purchased my first kilt my wife thought it was a great idea. Little did we both think that I would wear it far more than my wife thought sensible.

However she has reached the point now that if out together she starts wondering what people are looking at . Then see remembers I'm kilted.
We have a real laugh at some people (Afterwards) so give it time she'll be with you one day and do the same I'm sure.

Don't give up.