CCW with a kilt

**Magnus Sporrano** · 25th June 05, 02:05 PM

I just got my first pistol today (but have had rifles for many years). I intend to apply for my state's CCW permit and was wondering if anyone else here is a CCW holder. Considering what's the best way to pack (concealed) with a kilt on.

**Mike n NC** · 25th June 05, 04:27 PM

As a matter of fact...just today I was wearing my cammo PK and had a 5 inch barrel 44 mag. in the apron pocket. The pocket held it nicely and even with a hefty piece like that there was not a bit of noticable pull to the pleats or outer apron. Nice work Jeff!!!

Mike

**Doc Hudson** · 25th June 05, 05:38 PM

I have different results from Mike. My 4" S&W M-686 shows a bulge in the under-apron pocket of my PK, but my Always Gun (an S&W M-640) rides just fine in the under-apron pocket.

As an aside, I can stick the 4" M-686, and a 4.75" Single Action Army in the side pockets and they don't show at all.

As for the UK, I've seen the Kilted Cossack make a 7.5" Ruger Super Blackhawk disappear in the pockets of a UK Mocker.

At the moment, the only other option that comes to mind is using a fanny pack holster as a sporran, which I've also done. Hopefully, before the end of summer, I will have a prototype Soporran Holster ready. I'll keep you posted as to results.

**Angus** · 25th June 05, 05:55 PM

Magnus, I have a PA CCW permit. I'd imagine that the best way with a tratditional kilt would be like Doc said in a fanny pack w/ a hidden holster in place of the sporran. But it would depend on the type of weapon being concealled.(dont know how hard they are to draw from though) . you could keep it in a shoulder harness rig under a big shirt/jacket,they also have those spandex/elastic holsters that fit tight against your waist in a hidden carry, they are kinda hard to draw from . Or in one of those in the small of your back holsters that clip fast to your pants.(not so fun to sit down in). Thats about all I can think of at the moment. Just try a couple of different ways to see what your comfortable with.

**TheFly** · 25th June 05, 06:15 PM

I don't carry a weapon. Guns aren't my thing.

But as long as we're talking holsters, I want one of these for my cell phone.

E-Holster

**Dreadbelly** · 25th June 05, 06:21 PM

I find that for most situations, I don't need a gun.

I just need one of these.

And then suitable application of a large heavy blunt object. Like, say, my cane. Or a lamp post. A sign mayhap. Or a bistro table. Whatever is handy. You know the drill.

But guns are nice for those rare situations when you need them.

**Doc Hudson** · 25th June 05, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheFly

I don't carry a weapon. Guns aren't my thing.

But as long as we're talking holsters, I want one of these for my cell phone.

E-Holster

Looks to be a bit much for the average cell phone, but if that's what you want, go for it.

Personally, since I gave up my old analog flip phone, I've quit using a holster for my phone and just stuff it in a pocket or in my fanny pack.

**Doc Hudson** · 25th June 05, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Angus

Magnus, I have a PA CCW permit. I'd imagine that the best way with a tratditional kilt would be like Doc said in a fanny pack w/ a hidden holster in place of the sporran. But it would depend on the type of weapon being concealled.(dont know how hard they are to draw from though) . you could keep it in a shoulder harness rig under a big shirt/jacket,they also have those spandex/elastic holsters that fit tight against your waist in a hidden carry, they are kinda hard to draw from . Or in one of those in the small of your back holsters that clip fast to your pants.(not so fun to sit down in). Thats about all I can think of at the moment. Just try a couple of different ways to see what your comfortable with.

Shoulder holsters are tough to find that are comfortable for a big guy.

You can find one, just don't bet on finding it on the first or even third try.
I sometimes wear a shoulder holster under my shirt. It works best with a snap front shirt, that way you won't have to rip buttons to make a fast draw.

As for small of the back carry, that is dangerous. If you fall, it can severely injure your spine.

If you routinely wear a vest or untucked shirt, you might consider an Inside the Waistband Holster, if you have room to spare in your kilt.

Another option is a contraption called Thunderwear. I don't know how well you'd be able to access the holster in a kilt, but I suspect that it might lead to a serious flashing incident.

Kramer Holsters in, IIRC, Seattle makes an undershirt with built-in shoulder holster. I've not tried one, but I've heard some good reviews.

**phil h** · 26th June 05, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mike n NC

As a matter of fact...just today I was wearing my cammo PK and had a 5 inch barrel 44 mag. in the apron pocket. The pocket held it nicely and even with a hefty piece like that there was not a bit of noticable pull to the pleats or outer apron. Nice work Jeff!!!

Mike

carefull you don't shoot yer dick off