Bad news

**herminator** · 25th August 05, 01:13 AM

Bad news! Today I was told I am not allowed to wear my kilt to work any more!

When we recieved our Certificate of Quality Management last month a member of our board sat next to me. HE felt uncomfortable sitting next to "a man in a skirt"

! He brought it up at the next board meeting. There it was decided that I schould not wear my kilt when working!

He has problems, I have to wear trousers! ****!!!

**Rigged** · 25th August 05, 02:08 AM

As I learned here recently, words and what they mean to people matter a lot.

The strict dictionary definition of a word isn't nearly as important as its social meaning and context.

Skirts are women's clothing.

Kilts are not skirts.

Down with skirts! Up with kilts!

**Archangel** · 25th August 05, 03:06 AM

Germany, interestingly, has a different view on Human Rights legislation. They seem to have a more flexible and open view. If you are in a safe position, and feel like challenging the company's ruling, check it out.

**KiltedKnight** · 5th February 06, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rigged

As I learned here recently, words and what they mean to people matter a lot.

The strict dictionary definition of a word isn't nearly as important as its social meaning and context.

Skirts are women's clothing.

Kilts are not skirts.

Down with skirts! Up with kilts!

I hear you. But just wait until you find out the way our wonderful government has changed the meaning of our simplest of words to trap us into something we know nothing about...LOL!

**Graham** · 25th August 05, 04:12 AM

Hermann that really stinks. I don't know you situation, but one guy feels uncomfortable (prob. because of his own ignorance and narrow view) and YOU have to change what you wear?

If this guy the boss?

Seems unfair to me. Do you want me to come over and sort him out for you? :grin:

**herminator** · 25th August 05, 04:29 AM

Yes, he´s the boss´s boss, no way past him. And I have to add that this is a Christian House(TM) founded by brethren.
And with wife and three children I will not risk anything for what is after all a clothing issue.
I will go to our works council, but as we belong to a churches welfare council our rights as workers are even less than usual. So I do not think anything can be done other than wear a "trousers stink" T-shirt.
It is just that I´ve been wearing my kilt to work for ca. 1/2 year without anybody protesting and now I have to change back! That sucks!!

**Frank** · 25th August 05, 06:04 AM

It's a great pity that some of those who attach (or become attached at birth) to a particular belief system, use it to justify whatever man made-absurdities fit in with their own way of non-thinking.

"I will go to our works council, but as we belong to a churches welfare council our rights as workers are even less than usual."

How very Christian of them. If Jesus Christ (forgive me if I've got their God wrong - I know nothing of their way of life) arrived for a visit tomorrow, would he have to show up in a a nice buisness suit or perhaps a pair of 501's - and have a haircut?

Have I missed something?

**Doc Hudson** · 25th August 05, 06:31 AM

You have my sympathy Herman.

Good luck with any appeal, and better luck finding a better job with more intelligent management.

As for slogan tee-shirts, let me suggest, "Real Men wear Kilts, and the boss makes me wear these sissy pants!"

**Graham** · 25th August 05, 06:48 AM

Hermann, I wonder if you have read my article here on this site about Christians and kilts? http://www.xmarksthescot.com/articles_id.php?id=1
there may be something helpful.

Christians are just as human as everyone else and can be influenced by cultural conditioning, bias, misinformation etc.

If you can show them that a kilt is a male garment, not female, that Jesus didn't wear trousers etc. you may get somewhere.

I've been in a great variety of church situations kilted, and most of the time found acceptance, no obvious problems.

The "brethren" are very fundamental (a dirty word these days, but i mean it in a positive way), if you know anything of the Bible, you could discuss it on that level.
The Bible is most definately not against the wearing of kilts!!

Let me know if i can help, this concerns me a bit.

**Ranald** · 26th August 05, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by herminator

Yes, he´s the boss´s boss, no way past him. And I have to add that this is a Christian House(TM) founded by brethren.
And with wife and three children I will not risk anything for what is after all a clothing issue.
I will go to our works council, but as we belong to a churches welfare council our rights as workers are even less than usual. So I do not think anything can be done other than wear a "trousers stink" T-shirt.
It is just that I´ve been wearing my kilt to work for ca. 1/2 year without anybody protesting and now I have to change back! That sucks!!

Hermann, one of my views in life if your going to go into a fight the best victory is to win with their own rules.
I maybe out of line here but didn't Jesus in his teaching say something about obeying the laws of the land....then how is it you have less rights because you work for the church?
I'm also in agreement with Shay, I'd put a robe on like Jesus.
Be warned though that if you challange their authority you could be dismissed for breaking the rules so you have to be prepared from the start to take it all the way.
I can tell Hermann you're a intelligent guy, and I wish you luck if you decide to fight this ridiculous ruling.