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17th September 05, 09:20 PM
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Boy Scout kilts
My Boy Scout venture crew {boys and girls 13 to 21 years old} made there uniform bottom a kilt. The boys love it it and so do I { it was really my idea} and the girls are just o.k. with it. Well we did a campfire tonight for the younger scouts and I was in my kilt but the kids were not. We were walking around and one of the scouts ran over to me and asked me to give him my kilt. Well I had to say no but it was great to see how other males like kilts at any age. I told my wife and she just said " it's a guy thing " and I said yep. I have a lot of boys that want to join my crew as soon as the turn 13. The other scout leaders tried to ban the kilt. I went to the top people in the Boy Scout and they said if we want kilts, to go for it.
I've been wearing my kilt every were and I always get a great response. It was a great summer in the Chicago area for kilts, it was hot and I was cool in more than one way. I wear my kilt with pride and always with great respect. I love the way it makes me feel and will never do anything the bring down the respect WE get from wearing this garment.
Last edited by Tartan Hiker; 11th February 10 at 01:57 PM.
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18th September 05, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kenNYG
My Boy Scout venture crew {boys and girls 13 to 21 years old} made there uniform bottom a kilt. The boys love it it and so do I { it was realy my idea} and the girls are just o.k. with it.
kenNYG,
What kind of kilt (tartan, plain) are you and your crew wearing?
Do you think the girls would be happier with a kilted skirt?
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18th September 05, 05:03 AM
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I wish I'd had you for a Scoutmaster.
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18th September 05, 03:26 PM
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The kids wear a green plad tartan that I dont know the name of. We bought the last ones that U.K. had and they dont make them any more. We've gone to Black Stewart . I have the geen, black stewart, the Marian camie becouse my son became a Marian June 30,05.
You have to remember that cost is important to kids that work part time. I know that a lot of you don't look up to U.K. but I have found them quite comfertable and they they helped us out on the price. I have order a black kilt from Bear Kilts and should get it in the next few weeks.
I'll have to ask the girls about the kilted skirt. That may make them feel better not do be dreesed the same as the boys.
As my mother always told me " be diffrent, be happy and have a great day, Ken
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18th September 05, 03:32 PM
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Ken,
If nothing else, you are following in the footsteps of tradition with your Scout kilt-wearing. Lord Baden-Powell, who was World Chief Scout when I was a lad, as he was for many years, frequently wore the kilt as part of his Scout uniform.
Well done!
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18th September 05, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish
Ken,
If nothing else, you are following in the footsteps of tradition with your Scout kilt-wearing. Lord Baden-Powell, who was World Chief Scout when I was a lad, as he was for many years, frequently wore the kilt as part of his Scout uniform.
Well done!
which leads to my question. I have a vague memory of there being a scout kilt. It was a long time ago but I'm almost positive. Maybe it was Baden-Powell's tartan.
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Originally Posted by Hamish
Ken,
If nothing else, you are following in the footsteps of tradition with your Scout kilt-wearing. Lord Baden-Powell, who was World Chief Scout when I was a lad, as he was for many years, frequently wore the kilt as part of his Scout uniform.
Well done!
It's good to see the legend returning. Kilts and scouting go together very well. Can't believe some tried to stop it.
Past President, St. Andrew's Society of the Inland Northwest
Member, Royal Scottish Country Dance Society
Founding Member, Celtic Music Spokane
Member, Royal Photographic Society
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Since Ken is in America I'll give him the Official Word from the National Boy Scouts of America on Kilts and Uniforms. What you will find is Kilts and Khaki or Blue Shirts are not official uniforms. The Cub Scout and Boy Scout uniform does serve a purpose for disciple, conformity, and showing one scout is not more "special" than another based on non-uniform clothing options. That being Said, Venturing as a Program is not the same animal. Venturing was designed to be different. If you have attended a VLST (Venturing Leader Specific Training) you'd learn that Venturing has NO OFFICIAL UNIFORM. The RECOMMENDED uniform is Green Venturing Shirt with Green Epaulets, Grey Venturing Shorts, and Grey Venturing Socks. We have crews who locally wear a polo embroidered with the Crew number and khaki or jean shorts. For National Events such as the National Boy Scout Jamboree, Venturing turns the Recommended Uniform into a Mandatory uniform for the event. (Hence I was "out of uniform" wearing my Green Shirt and Kilt and the 2005 Jambo).
As Sherry posted linking to Crew 1298. I am a Crew Advisor for 1298. Here's the updated website http://www.crew1298.org/ One of our divisions of the Crew specialize in Highland Culture. Our "uniform" is a Green Venturing Uniform Shirt, and a Black Watch, MacLaren, or Personal Family Name Kilt.
Also if you decide to Take Woodbadge for the 21st Century, unless the Kilt is specifically listed on your Crew's Bylaws as a Standard Uniform, then you won't be allowed to wear it for the duration of the course. Most WB course Directors have been stricter on policing uniform conformity .
If you have any questions related to Scouting or Venturing I've been an Advisor who pushes the limits of the program for some time now. Another local Crew to Dallas/Fort Worth , Crew 1876, owns 6 Howitzers for Civil War demonstrations. How cool is that?
Anyways, if you have questions, PM me.
Gordon
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Years ago, I attended the jamboree at Fort AP Hill in Virinia and remember seeing a troop in kilts. I do not know where they were from. we were there for the day and the coutmaster was in a hurry and would not let us talk to anyone. as an asst Scoutmaster, I should haveput my foot down. But I have never forgotten the sight Of a Scout troop in kilts marching off. They even had a piper.
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5th July 08, 07:58 AM
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Ain't this a great board! Here's Ken off on his own out of the sheer love of and common sense of kilting bringing FREEDOM to young men. Another shining example of how the practicality of kilts is the attraction for men with self-confidence and common sense.
As an old Boy Scout I well remember occasional pictures or sketches in Boys Life Magazine of kilted scouts.
As for all them various rules and regulations and sub-sections and geographic prohibitions....well, you know how I feel about such inane nonsense.
Young men should not be raised to follow silly rules, they should be encouraged to find their spirit and blossom proudly.
Thank you Ken for doing just that on a small part of the Planet.
Ron
Brave, Clean, and Reverent....
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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