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14th October 05, 05:36 PM
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Where do I find pics of combat soldiers in kilts???
Hello all
I've been googling for a while with no luck in finding a website which has a decent assortment of period photos of soldiers in the trenches or on the frontlines in their kilts........I seem to recall seeing them all over the place until I actually started looking for them.
I tried "The great war forum" but they aren't registering anyone new, and apparently won't allow unregistered members see their content.
Whatever photos I have been able to find are usually the portrait style photos taken in a studio with a back drop etc etc.
If anyone knows of a place online which has these kinds of photos, especially ones which show their weapons and equipment , I'm all ears!
thanks
Brasilikilt
Wear your kilt proudly, but carry a big stick
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14th October 05, 05:54 PM
#2
pics...
There are a few photos on the Scottish Military Historical Society's web site:
http://www.btinternet.com/~james.mckay/dispatch.htm
About half-way down the page, you'll see a link (No. 5) for "Scottish Military Illustrations. There is a section for 20th century photos.
It's not on the web, but the best printed source for this query is the Osprey book, "Scottish Divisions of the World Wars" by Mike Chappell:
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...=P4695&ser=ELI
Besides the full-colour prints, it is full of pictures from the First World War.
Cheers,
Todd
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14th October 05, 07:25 PM
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You'll be hard pressed to find WW2 pics since they stopped wearing the kilt during Dunkirk. Googling Dunkirk and Camerons will give you some.
There are several good sites based on specific groups.
Camerons, the last to wear the kilt: http://www.eldonspecialties.com/df/camerons/
Liverpool Scottish, go to the trench exhibit: http://www.liverpoolscottish.org.uk/
This is a collection: http://www.gwpda.org/photos/greatwar.htm
Sort of my hobby, anything in particular you're looking for?
Art stores help the imagination but are not photos:
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15th October 05, 06:38 AM
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Look at 'Forgotten Scottish Voices', by Derek Young, Published Tempus.
ISBN: 0 7524 33261
Fascinating stuff about WW1 and some interesting pictures.
A troll through the WW1 books will throw up quite a few pictures of highland troops-dressed as they really were dressed.
Osprey a bit pop, and too many of their illustrations are ideal rather than actual.
Somewhere there is a picture of a kilted officer at Arnhem-and also John Masters makes an amusing reference in his biography about using the kilt of one of his officers as a light shield when in close proximity to the Japanese during the second Chindit expedition. Apparently the officer in question was not entirely happy at matches being lit under his kilt for the inspection of a map!
Whilst Roy Farran whilst serving behind the lines in Italy [SAS] makes mention of a piper being dropped by parachute whilst actually wearing the kilt.
A very real problem with all such research being that whilst army and even regimental regulations might be saying one thing-both individuals and sub units would in both world wars be on occasion doing their own thing.
Back in the 50's I saw members of the A&SH entering an operational theatre kilted, but do not know if they ever wore them on operations.
James
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15th October 05, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Look at 'Forgotten Scottish Voices', by Derek Young, Published Tempus.
ISBN: 0 7524 33261
Fascinating stuff about WW1 and some interesting pictures.
A troll through the WW1 books will throw up quite a few pictures of highland troops-dressed as they really were dressed.
Osprey a bit pop, and too many of their illustrations are ideal rather than actual.
Somewhere there is a picture of a kilted officer at Arnhem-and also John Masters makes an amusing reference in his biography about using the kilt of one of his officers as a light shield when in close proximity to the Japanese during the second Chindit expedition. Apparently the officer in question was not entirely happy at matches being lit under his kilt for the inspection of a map!
Whilst Roy Farran whilst serving behind the lines in Italy [SAS] makes mention of a piper being dropped by parachute whilst actually wearing the kilt.
A very real problem with all such research being that whilst army and even regimental regulations might be saying one thing-both individuals and sub units would in both world wars be on occasion doing their own thing.
Back in the 50's I saw members of the A&SH entering an operational theatre kilted, but do not know if they ever wore them on operations.
James
Mad Major Frank Churchill apparently wore his kilt on commando raids. One of the top ranked British officers wore his kilt throughout, (does that count? near the battle is not in the battle.)
The sad legend of Canadians in Hong Kong has it that the Japanese attacked the kilted on washday. They could see the whites on the line and knew it was a relaxed time. I don't know if that's true, can't remember the reference for that, not sure how many were kilted.
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15th October 05, 09:11 AM
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My grandfather served in the army during WWII.I remember seeing two pictures that he had taken of pipers,one was in Sicily,the other was in Holland.If I can find them,I'll post them.He also mentioned in a letter a piper playing at a memorial service near Bastogne.
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