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21st October 05, 05:57 AM
#1
Military medals on jackets
Hey!
I was wondering what the rule or general consensus is for wearing awards & decs with either an Argyll or a Prince Charlie?
I know that for a ball, I can simply use my mess dress jacket and wear it with my AF kilt. I was wondering if there's an etiquette rule regarding medals and other jackets.
Thanks!
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21st October 05, 06:21 AM
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medals & decorations...
Originally Posted by F16WarBird
Hey!
I was wondering what the rule or general consensus is for wearing awards & decs with either an Argyll or a Prince Charlie?
I know that for a ball, I can simply use my mess dress jacket and wear it with my AF kilt. I was wondering if there's an etiquette rule regarding medals and other jackets.
Thanks!
It depends on what the invitation says -- traditionally, medals and decorations are only worn if the invitation specifically requests attendees to wear them. I know our Scottish society does for our Burns Night.
With evening wear, one should wear miniature medals and not full-sized "gongs". Many ex-servicemen I know wear minis on their PC's, following either the regulations of their branch of service, or the British custom of wearing them on the left lapel.
This Australian web site gives a decent accounting of medal & decoration protocol:
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-...dals-mount.htm
Another good FAQ page:
http://www.hereditary.us/gent.htm
I would consult the USAF regulations to see what they say about medals & decorations with civilian attire.
Cheers,
Todd
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21st October 05, 08:05 AM
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I know the Few and Proud uniform regs state that you cant wear the evening/mess dress with a kilt or any other than the prescribed uniform. Im pretty sure awards are not authorized with any other than uniforms, but maybe Air Force is more linient with that.
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21st October 05, 03:56 PM
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Depending on the occasion (wedding, ball, etc) and to location, rules occasionally are bent.
Let me see someone try to stop me from wearing it at my own wedding. ;)
As far as AFI 36-2903 (Uniform Dress & Appearance) goes, the wearing of an individual's awards & decs on anything OTHER than their uniform is exempt. It's only an issue when someone wears the uniform improperly.
Getting back OT, I'm looking for the proper etiquette regarding NON military ensembles (Prince Charlie, Argyll, etc) and medals. In other words, would it be appropriate to wear my awards and decs at a wedding if I was wearing an Argyll with a bow tie?
Know what I mean?
Last edited by F16WarBird; 21st October 05 at 03:58 PM.
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21st October 05, 04:06 PM
#5
The rule in the UK is that, unless Highland Dress is part of the mess kit of your regiment, it is treated as though you're wearing civilian evening/dinner dress. In a "do" where medals are worn (it should say on the invitation), the rule-of-thumb for that is DJ (black tie)-medals (full size, court mounted), Evening Dress (white tie)-miniatures (can be court mounted). Highland Dress worn with white tie/jabot is like evening dress; with black tie it is like a DJ (i.e. tuxedo).
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21st October 05, 06:56 PM
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[QUOTE=F16WarBird}
Know what I mean?[/QUOTE]
I do. I guess us Devils are extremely picky about our uniforms andf dont mix them with civis. Maybe soem of the former Marines here have some input.
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25th October 05, 08:57 AM
#7
Medals
In the USA federal law says that a Veteran can wear his "old" (historical) or the new (current) uniform. Basically if you have ever been in the military you can wear the uniform, that is the law. If you are in civilian attire you can still wear the medals. The problem is that in uniform you wear ribbons, not the whole medal, in Dress Uniform you wear the miniature medals so where do you wear the full size medals? No where? I don't think so.
I wore my full size medals to my wedding on my dress blues, totally dropped all ribbons, just the suspention medals. It was a fashon faux pas, but by God I earned those medals and no where in law am I required to hide them.
In uniform you are protected by law, Federal Law superseeds regulations. If you are not wearing a uniform, I.E. jacket & kilt then you are not subject to regulations. Wear the full size medals. You earned them, flaunt it.
I once was invited to a formal "Dining In" where it was specified that I would wear "everything" so I had Federal, State and ROTC ribbons. I looked like a "Hero of the Soviet Union" 30+ ribbons, it looked bad.
Right now in America is is cool to be a Service Member, it wasn't before, It will not be in the future, abuse it now while you can, before it goes out of fashon.
Last edited by Sir Robert; 25th October 05 at 08:59 AM.
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5th March 07, 07:26 AM
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I hardly ever see full-size medals except on Remembrance Day, and on our Drum Major when he's in full dress. I see miniatures quite often at any black-tie function; left lapel. The only time I ever see decorations with day wear is Remembrance Day and SAMS, which seem to wear their ribbons all the time.
I remember once a fellow showed up for a parade with a chest full of JROTC/ROTC ribbons that would make a field marshal blush. With the gentle encouragement of the numerous British, Canadian, and American combat veterans in our band, he never made that mistake again.
Last edited by PiobBear; 5th March 07 at 07:45 AM.
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5th March 07, 09:11 AM
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are you still on active duty? if you are, better follow the regs. if your out of the military, wear what you want. i'm a former marine and i wear mine on any occasion, in fact the veterans admin. has asked all vets. to wear their awards and decoration, on all social occasions, parades, weddings, whatever. if i can get it together i will post pic's of myself in formal usmc dress, well sort of. i wear my mini medals on a pc.
slick
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5th March 07, 09:26 AM
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I am on Active Duty with the U S Army and I wear my medals and combat badges on civilian jackets. When I can if only to foster discussion. When I wear my PC I wear my miniature medals on my left lapel like on mess dress, but on Veterans and Memorial day I wear full dress and full size medals. But my father wears his full size on his Argyll Jacket with his kilt. ( He served from 1948 to 1981 and has a daily coffee club with a few British vets and a Foreign Legion vet )And the OLD Command Sergeant Major Says, "If you earned them WEAR 'EM with pride" CR66
HERMAN, Adventurer, BBQ guru, student of history
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