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    Question Box pleats

    I’m busy making my first box pleated kilt and was wondering what one does the extra fabric above the fell. In Barb’s book on knife pleated kilts you cut it out, carefully. Does one do the same with a box pleat?

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    I remember reading a post by MAC Newsome in some thread (don't remember which) where he stated that the material you are talking about does not get cut. I remember him stating that this makes it easy to have the kilt remade should the owner gain or lose weight causing it not to fit right.

    I don't know if that was the reason for it, but he did state that as a bonus.

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    In a four yard box pleated kilt I do *not* cut out any cloth inside the pleats. The reason this is done on a standard eight yard kilt is because otherwise you'd end up with a huge bulk of material there at your back. It would simply be uncomfortable (trust me -- I've tried on a homemade kilt once where the person didn't do this).

    With a four yard kilt, though (box pleated or knife pleated) that just isn't neccesary. In fact, leaving the cloth in not only gives you a bit more body, but it also (as Chase said) makes it easier to alter the kilt should you need to in the future.

    In a "true" box pleated kilt, there should be little or no overlap in the pleats -- the pleat width should be about 1/3 the size of the sett, which would give you three layers of cloth at any given point in the back of the kilt. Not enough to warrant taking siccors to the cloth!

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    Thumbs up Thanks

    I knew I'd get an answer to my question from you guys. I'll not cut it out. Thanks Matt and Chase.
    Slainte

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    any help would be great

    please explain the box kilt and how to fold it

    thanks

    or a point in the right direction

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    Pictures on this page show the difference between a box pleated kilt and the more standard knife pleated kilt.
    http://kilts.albanach.org/details.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
    In a four yard box pleated kilt I do *not* cut out any cloth inside the pleats. The reason this is done on a standard eight yard kilt is because otherwise you'd end up with a huge bulk of material there at your back. It would simply be uncomfortable (trust me -- I've tried on a homemade kilt once where the person didn't do this).

    With a four yard kilt, though (box pleated or knife pleated) that just isn't neccesary. In fact, leaving the cloth in not only gives you a bit more body, but it also (as Chase said) makes it easier to alter the kilt should you need to in the future.

    In a "true" box pleated kilt, there should be little or no overlap in the pleats -- the pleat width should be about 1/3 the size of the sett, which would give you three layers of cloth at any given point in the back of the kilt. Not enough to warrant taking siccors to the cloth!

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    Do you do four yarders in Irish National, or Henderson? If so how much would it be for a 42 inch waist or 44 inches?
    Last edited by emeraldfalconoflight; 10th November 05 at 12:25 PM.

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    Sure, I can make the kilt out of pretty much any tartan that's out there, including these two. Irish National and Henderson are both available in heavy weight (16 oz) cloth. I'd need to get full measurements to confirm price, but assuming your hip measurement is 46" or less, it'd be $350 for the kilt.

    You can PM or email me if you want to discuss the details.
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    are both pleated to stripe and set available. I realy would like the Henderson 4yder in pleated to stripe, but I do not know the actual width of the sett.

    How long to get the material, make it, and to get it to me?

    I would definately want the Henderson, is that a tartan you have readily available at your shoppe?
    Last edited by emeraldfalconoflight; 11th November 05 at 07:04 AM.

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