Are Campbells STILL not welcome in some parts of Scotland??

[iheartbagpipes]

Hello,

I'm very new to this site (like 10 minutes) and need some help. I am planning a trip to England, Wales, Ireland and potentially Scotland and I am hearing that in some parts visitors are asked their lastname if you answer "Campbell" you are not served in pubs or even welcome in the town! Is this true? And if so should I follow the advice of a friend and say my lastname is "Stuart" (as I am also a part of Clan Stuart of Bute on my mother's side. ) ? Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Erin

[Yaish]

I havent been to Scotland, so I cant say with certainty but I think that bit of misguided bias exists more among those outside of Scotland than in it.

Either way, I would never be so ashamed of my name that I hid behind another.

[dwg]

Welcome to X marks from Norfolk UK


Derek

[Big Paul]

Welcome to the forum!

I've never heard of such a thing, but then again I haven't been to Scotland..;-)

[highlander_Daz]

I can say that it is very very unlikely you will recieve anything other than a warm welcome in Scotland, you will hear some rumblings on message boards but its almost always from people who live outs side if Scotland, be proud of your name my friend, whats done is done.

[macwilkin]

My brother-in-law worked for a while in a pub near Glencoe, and claimed that there was a sign above the bar that stated:

"No Campbells Served Here"

But whether they actually enforced it as a house rule, or had it for "local colour" is another matter.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Cheers,

Todd

[Rab Gordon]

Sounds like a wind-up, I've never heard of such attitudes being held or expressed beyond light hearted fun.

Rab

[ByDand]

We've been to Scotland twice and never heard of anything like that. I do get a kick out of the pub sign seen by CajunScot but I really doubt that it holds true. My wife and I liked the pub sign we saw in Aberdeen "Unrulely children will be sold into slavery!" Go and have fun and be very proud of your name. Lift a pint for Xmarks while you are there

[Valencian Kilted]

Well, in my case, and after reading a lot about the '45, and many songs like "Culloden's Harvest", I learned to "reject" Campbells in one way or another, but I learned something different just after listening for the first time the song I include as my sign here. It's called "Erinn Go Bragh" and it starts with the words: "My name is Duncan Campbell from the shire of Argyll...".

After listening to that, I could have a different vision of Campbells as highlanders as the McDonalds were. They fought for the english in the past, that's true, but they also had to suffer the prohibition of kilts and tartans and were rejected as the rest of scots by the english... So after listening many times this song,... I noticed that I had to open my mind. There was a traditional song about a Campbell who kills an english and is prosecuted by lowlanders because he's considered an Irish criminal,... funny uh?

So well, nobody will forget what Clan Campbell did in Culloden, but everybody has to discover what they did and suffered after that, isn't it?

Just as an example of those "tribal" hates: I am a proud Celtic FC suporter, as I am Catholic, I love their colours, and I met many supporters here in Spain during a football match,.... and I' starting to have some kind of nice distant relation with some scottish lassie,... protestant, unionist, and of course, Rangers supporter! those who live in Scotland must know what's that uh? :mrgreen:

As I said,... many people has open minds!

¡Salud!

T O N O

[macwilkin]

Tono,

When you say "the Campbells at Culloden", are you referring to Glencoe? There were Campbells at Culloden on both sides (mostly in the Argyll militia on the Government side, but there were some Campbells who fought for the Jacobites as well), but one thing should be pointed out -- neither the defeat of the Jacobites at Culloden nor the massacre of Glencoe were ordered and executed by Campbells exclusively. For the former, it was a British Army force, led by the Duke (Butcher) Cumberland, and for the latter, while there was a Campbell in command at Glencoe, Robert Campbell of Glenlyon, his force was made up of soldiers, not Campbell clansmen per se.

Regards,

Todd