Help me find my tartan(s).

[SSgt Baloo]

I've been looking and looking and just haven't been able to find tartans that I have a definite connection with. I served in the USAF, but I've only found one site that shows a USAF tartan, and it appears identical to the one I've seen all over the web identified as the USAF Reserve tartan. One cite is not definitive.

As far as clan tartans, I am descended from Scottish, English, Dutch, Irish, and Cherokee ancestors (that I am aware of, anyway) and I can't seem to find tartans associated with any of them.

My family name is Dunehew (a variant spelling of Donohue). I'll just provide a list of the family names from which I descend:

1. Woods (grandmother's family name)
2. Felts (other grandmother's (OG's) FN)
3. Ford (great grandma's (GG's) family name)
4. Pendleton (OGG's family name)
5. Carpenter
6. Hennessee
7. Wood (no apparent relation to above grandmother)
8. Thorpe
9. Frost
10. Merritt
11. Cooper

According to family history, at least someone in this crowd is Scottish, and some others are Irish. I'm certain someone here might actually recognise one of the above names and be able to say "It's very simple. Family name "X" is a sept of the "Y" clan, and these links show their tartans." I've been looking for a couple of weeks and I've given up looking on my own.

Help me, Obi-Wan! You're my only hope.

--SSgt Baloo

[sirdaniel1975]

Try these web pages:

http://.electricscotland.com/tartans/quick.htm

http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/septs.htm

http://.electricscotland.com/webclans/alphabetical.htm

http://ww.electricscotland.com/webclans/spellings.htm

These should get you started. Do not take any of it as Gospel untill you can confirm what you finf there. I would visit the Scottish Tartans Museum Website and ask them further questions in an email. Their links are all through out xmarks...

[turpin]

I've been looking and looking and just haven't been able to find tartans that I have a definite connection with. I served in the USAF, but I've only found one site that shows a USAF tartan, and it appears identical to the one I've seen all over the web identified as the USAF Reserve tartan. One cite is not definitive.

As far as clan tartans, I am descended from Scottish, English, Dutch, Irish, and Cherokee ancestors (that I am aware of, anyway) and I can't seem to find tartans associated with any of them.

My family name is Dunehew (a variant spelling of Donohue). I'll just provide a list of the family names from which I descend:

1. Woods (grandmother's family name)
2. Felts (other grandmother's (OG's) FN)
3. Ford (great grandma's (GG's) family name)
4. Pendleton (OGG's family name)
5. Carpenter
6. Hennessee
7. Wood (no apparent relation to above grandmother)
8. Thorpe
9. Frost
10. Merritt
11. Cooper

According to family history, at least someone in this crowd is Scottish, and some others are Irish. I'm certain someone here might actually recognise one of the above names and be able to say "It's very simple. Family name "X" is a sept of the "Y" clan, and these links show their tartans." I've been looking for a couple of weeks and I've given up looking on my own.

Help me, Obi-Wan! You're my only hope.

--SSgt Baloo

Here's the best I could do for you.

http://mcdade.bravepages.com/

Mcdade is a sept of clan Davidson, and I found Merritt in the names list on this site.

Wear what appeals to you, and you can always go with a district, or national tarton, Ireland national (Hennessey), USA national, etc.

[sirdaniel1975]

Wood Taran


Cooper Tartan


US Military Tartans

Now, I found 2 Wood tartans (thread count seemed slightly different in each) and there were several Couper/Cooper tartans. Some of these names in your background (the Scottish/English ones) might be what some call border names. Meaning the borders of Scotland and England, usually English in origin, now as much Scottish as English.... Again I hope this helps!

My Site

[sirdaniel1975]

US Military Tartans

that should work!!

[Tattoo Bradley]

Do a search here on the USAF tartan. I myself served in the USAF and had a thread going for a brief time here on the tartan. The USAF tartan (AKA the Lady Jane) is NOT an 'official' tartan for the USAF or the USAFR. The USAFR pipeband does however wear it. AND, many members/former members identify with it as the USAF tartan. I personally identify with it. And, if I can ever manage to get my pennies in one basket I'm going to have Kathy Lare sew one up for me.

[macwilkin]

Do a search here on the USAF tartan. I myself served in the USAF and had a thread going for a brief time here on the tartan. The USAF tartan (AKA the Lady Jane) is NOT an 'official' tartan for the USAF or the USAFR. The USAFR pipeband does however wear it. AND, many members/former members identify with it as the USAF tartan. I personally identify with it. And, if I can ever manage to get my pennies in one basket I'm going to have Kathy Lare sew one up for me.

All of the correspondence and materials I have received from the USAFR Band indicates the opposite, TB; the USAFR does, in some capacity, recognize the USAFR (Lady Jane) tartan as an "official" tartan. And the USAF (not the reserve band) Pipes and Drums wore the "Mitchell" tartan, not the Lady Jane, until their disbandment in the late 1960's. While the reserve band claims to trace their roots, some literature indicates they were actually two seperate bodies. I'm still gathering sources and I am still waiting for a USAFR band member to contact me regarding the history of the associated USAF tartans, but I would conclusively say that it is not recognized -- hopefully my research will clear this matter up.

Regards,

Todd

ps: I'll try to deal with the original question in this thread tomorrow!

[glengall1]

My family name is Dunehew (a variant spelling of Donohue). I'll just provide a list of the family names from which I descend:

1. Woods (grandmother's family name)
2. Felts (other grandmother's (OG's) FN)
3. Ford (great grandma's (GG's) family name)
4. Pendleton (OGG's family name)
5. Carpenter
6. Hennessee
7. Wood (no apparent relation to above grandmother)
8. Thorpe
9. Frost
10. Merritt
11. Cooper

--SSgt Baloo

Woods - First recordeded usage in Scotland is in Nairnshire in the 13th Century and in Dumfrieshire in the 14th century. No clan septs but could wear the district tartans.

Felts- No record in our Scottish or Irish books

Ford- We have a record of "Forde" being from County Leitrim in Ireland and therefore the County Leitrim tartan could be used. The first usage of Ford in Scotland is recorded in Annandale in the 15th century although they were not a sept of a clan.

Pendleton - No references in either our Scottish or Irish references. Seems kind of English to me.

Hennessee - There is reference to "Hennesay" in County Wesmeath and "Hennessy" in County Dublin in Ireland. No metion in Scotland.

Thorpe - No mention in either

Frost - No mention in either

Merritt - No mention in either but strong French sounding to me.

Cooper - First recorded in Scotland in Fife in the 13th century, no sept of a clan.

Hope this helps.

Good luck in your quest and please don't hesitate to contact me if you want to see the Irish County tartans.

[sirdaniel1975]

SSgt Baloo,

Cooper

Clan History: http://electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/cooper.html
Clan Tartans: http://houseoftartan.com/scottish/di...77&subsecid=97
Associated Names and Septs (with spelling variations):
Cooper Copper Coupar Coupare Couper Couppar Cowlpar Cowlper Cowpar Cowper Culpar Cupar Cuper Cupir

The name has a double significance in Scotland, being both a maker of casks and native of Cupar, Fife, where it is recorded from the thirteenth century onwards. It is commonly spelt Coupar.

Thanks to James Pringle Weavers for the following information

COOPER / COUPER: This name occurs in many guises in nearly every English-speaking county of Scotland and it is also common throughout England and elsewhere for it's origin is largely derived from the occupation of barrel maker. In Scotland it may equally be of local origin in that some originated in or near the town of Cupar in Fife, or from the ancient settlement around the Abbey of Coupar in Angus (Coupar Angus, Perthshire), for in both associations the name is common in early records. Its first appearance seems to be in a Charter dated 1245, and an early widespread distribution is evidenced by a John Cupar holding lands in Aberdeen in 1281, while a Symon Coupare in Berwickshire rendered homage to Edward I of England in 1296. Finla Couper in Belnakeill in Atholl was fined for sheltering outlawed MacGregors in 1613, such occurence being worthy of record in the Register of the Privy Council of Scotland. A family of Coupers held the lands of Gogar near Edinburgh in the 17th century, and of this House, John Couper was created a Baronet of Nova Scotia in 1638, two years before being killed in an explosion which destroyed Douglas Castle during the 'Bishops' Wars'. Sir John's 3rd son settled in Dumbartonshire and from his House came others who settled in the West of Scotland. Amongst others, these families comprised the Coupers of Banheath (Dumbartonshire); of Failford and Smeithston (Ayrshire), and of Ballindalloch (West Stirlingshire). Many changed their spelling to 'Cooper' during the 18th century. In a letter from the 'English' poet William Cowper (1731-1800) he reminded a correspondent that his roots lay in Fife where his line was still extant. Those of the name have never united under a 'chief', nor has any been family been defined as the principal race. Thus lacking a chief it follows that there can be neither Crest Badge, Motto et.al., appropriate for kindred use. There is however a Couper tartan, originally woven by Messrs Peter Macarthur of Hamilton for a family descended from the Coupers of Gogar. It is quite distinctive in its colourings and appears to have been copied from an old shawl.


Wood

Clan History: http://electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/wood.html
Clan Tartans: http://houseoftartan.com/scottish/di...=77&subsecid=9
Associated Names and Septs (with spelling variations):
Vod Voud Wod Wode Wood Woode Woods Yod

The name Wood was previously given as de Bosco’ a Norman name.

In the mid 15th century Andrew Wood was employed by James III to protect the Scottish trade with Holland.

In 1481 he defended Dumbarton against a fleet of Edward IV of England. James III granted him lands at Largo and bestowed a Knighthood upon him.

During the battle of Sauchieburn Andrews ships sailed up and down the Forth taking on board the wounded. Sir Andrew was the greatest seafarer of his time.

In 1488 and in 1490 he destroyed English fleets sent to attack the Scottish fleet. After the battle of Flodden he was sent to France to invite the Duke of Albany to assume the regency of Scotland.

The erroneous notion that clans are Highland groups and families are Lowland units is very much a Victorian one. In fact, the terms are interchangeable, and many a Lowland laird has held from the Lyon Court the title ‘Chief of the Name and Arms’. This is true of the Woods.

The Old English name Wood (also Wod, Vod, Yod, Wode, Woode, Woods, Voud and other variations) may well derive from the Norman French de Vosco, or de Bosco (modern French Dubois or just Bois), meaning ‘of the wood’ (occupational names of people crafting in wood being typically Wright, Wheelwright etc., Carpenter, Arrowsmith, Carver, Cooper, Sawyer and many others). Gaelic forms incorporating ‘Coill’ also took the English translation over time. Among the Wood families that moved into southern Scotland – some say with King David I – were the Woods of Bonnytoun in Angus. They held extensive lands in that district as well as Kinkardineshire, Perthshire and elsewhere.

Admiral Sir Andrew Wood Bt., of Largo, Fife, (circa 1455 – 1521) was almost certainly a scion of that ancient clan. He was famous for inflicting many defeats on foreign pirates and privateers as well as squadrons of ships sent by the English government to harass the Scots. His successors built a hospital and school in Fife for their kinsmen named Wood, and were prominent in Scottish history both politically and militarily: they continued to be a significant influence in British politics and were foremost among the thousands of Scots who contributed enormously to the economic and armed expansion of the British Empire well into the 19th century. The main line of Sir Andrew’s descendants is considered by the Court of the Lord Lyon King of Arms to be the chiefly one. The record of succession is complete right down to 1916, when Andrew George Wood died in Mayfair, London, leaving his estate on the border of Wales and Shropshire to his second wife. He had at least two children, maybe more. The Clan Wood Society is continuing the search for its Chief.

March 2006
scotswood@freeuk.com
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From Me: "Both seem to tie to the Perthshire District. This tartan is probably more available that the family ones."

from: www.tartans.scotland.net

Perthshire District

Similar to Drummond

This is the sett woven today. It differs slightly in proportion to Wilson's original pattern, recorded in his accounts c.1831, which was known as Perthshire Rock and Wheel. Rock and Wheel was an early type of soft tartan. The sett is similar to the Drummond tartan. (The Wilson papers, Scottish Tartans Society Collection)
The source of tartan 2060 was: after Wilson's of Bannockburn

To clarify info contact Matthew Newsome at:

The Scottish Tartans Museum
86 East Main St
Franklin, NC 28734
(828)524-7472
tartans@scottishtartans.org

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Daniel Williamson

[Colin]

[list=1][*]Woods (grandmother's family name)

Well, Woods is a version of Wood, which is a sept of Watson, and Watson is a sept of Buchanan (that adds a bunch of tartans to your list). There is a few Wood tartans, but they are hard to find, vendor wise, so they are quite expensive. I went with the Watson Ancient (my last name is Wood) from www.scottishkilts.com in the 16 oz jura range.

Here's a picture of the kilt (tartan close up) and the dress sporran I got as well.


Check out these links as well:
http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/wood.html
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/F...folk_Wood.html
http://www.myclan.com/clans/Wood_340/default.php
http://members.aol.com/enewman375/page/
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=7300
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tart...tartan_id=5921