Happy Quebec day

[Nervous Jock]

I found this on the net today some interesting historical stuff for you mil buffs.

http://www.britishbattles.com/index.htm

with a bit tartan thrown in as appropriate

[macwilkin]

I found this on the net today some interesting historical stuff for you mil buffs.

http://www.britishbattles.com/index.htm

with a bit tartan thrown in as appropriate

The Plains of Abraham, where the Battle of Quebec was fought, was named for a Scot, one Abraham Martin. And there was a Scot serving with the French forces under the Marquis de Montcalm -- the Chevalier de Johnstone, a former Jacobite.

Je me souviens!

Todd

[Ruanaidh]

Abraham Martin dit L'Écossais (the Scotsman) was born in France about 1589. Family legend tells the story that his father, a Scottish nobleman was a supporter of Mary, Queen of Scots. When Elizabeth I executed Mary in 1587, the family was forced to flee to France. Abraham arrived in New France about 1620 with his wife, Marguerite.

Abraham was one of the first colonialists of Canada and one of the first navigators of the St. Lawrence River. It was he who drew up the first navigational charts of the river.

The land owned by Abraham Martin at the top of Cap Diamants was called the "Plains of Abraham", a name later extended to the adjacent plateau, on which was fought the famous battle between Wolf and Montcalm for the possession of Québec.

Abraham fathered a large family and it is said that his blood flows in the veins of everyone of French-Canadian and Cajan descent.

Jamais Souillée

[Sylvain]

Dont't forget some members of this forum lost this battle

[macwilkin]

Dont't forget some members of this forum lost this battle

You didn't read my post, did you?

Go back and read it -- you'll read a reference to the Chevalier de Johnstone, who fought with Montcalm at Quebec. He served with the Jacobites before that. I mentioned him specifically because he served with the French.

My wife's people lost during the Seven Year's War as well -- you know, Le Grand Derangement. 'nuff said.

Je me souviens! (the provincial motto of Quebec)

Todd

[Sylvain]

You didn't read my post, did you?

Go back and read it -- you'll read a reference to the Chevalier de Johnstone, who fought with Montcalm at Quebec. He served with the Jacobites before that. I mentioned him specifically because he served with the French.

My wife's people lost during the Seven Year's War as well -- you know, Le Grand Derangement. 'nuff said.

Je me souviens! (the provincial motto of Quebec)

Todd

Yes, I did. I referred to the thread title. How could I be happy about this battle?

[macwilkin]

Yes, I did. I referred to the thread title. How could I be happy about this battle?

I don't think Nervous Jock was being malicious in his choice of titles, though. Don't read too much into it. The French forces engaged at Quebec fought gallantly under Montcalm.

If anything, I would be more upset at Montcalm's portrayal in The Last of the Mohicans, since evidence now suggests that he and other French officers attempted to stop the "massacre" at Ft. William Henry.

T.

[Sylvain]

If anything, I would be more upset at Montcalm's portrayal in The Last of the Mohicans, since evidence now suggests that he and other French officers attempted to stop the "massacre" at Ft. William Henry.

T.

Propagand remains propaganda...
Anyway, Montcalm was a Frenchman. Some say here that governor Vaudreuil could have won. But he was a Canadian (old meaning: French Canadian). So Montcalm led the troops and lost.

[Nervous Jock]

I don't think Nervous Jock was being malicious in his choice of titles, though. Don't read too much into it.

Correct

[Jock Scot]

Out of interest, General Wolfe,the British General,who was killed at the battle of Quebec served under the Duke of Cumberland,I think as a major,at the battle of Cullodon.