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19th September 07, 03:25 PM
#1
What Price Glory: Where Do They Get Their Tartan From?
Hi All,
I was curious if anyone knew where What Price Glory got their
tartan from, that is used to make up their kilts? I'd really like to
purchase some yardage, and simply can't afford to get it from
Scotland.
Thanks All,
Alex
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19th September 07, 03:45 PM
#2
Hi, Alex!
I can't answer your question, but... Welcome Aboard! Missed seeing you at events this season....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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19th September 07, 03:51 PM
#3
First off - -
Now to show my ignorance.....
"What Price Glory" is a book, then a movie..... Is it also a musical or singing or dance group?
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19th September 07, 03:53 PM
#4
Originally Posted by James MacMillan
First off - -
Now to show my ignorance.....
"What Price Glory" is a book, then a movie..... Is it also a musical or singing or dance group?
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/index.htm
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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19th September 07, 03:53 PM
#5
I believe his kilts are made in Pakistan as is much of his reproductions. What Price Glory well worth the perusing.
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19th September 07, 06:27 PM
#6
Originally Posted by ccga3359
I believe his kilts are made in Pakistan as is much of his reproductions. What Price Glory well worth the perusing.
Pakistan? I'll remember not to buy from them. I'd rather give my business to a real kilt maker rather than a sweat shop. Thanks for the heads up
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19th September 07, 06:48 PM
#7
Originally Posted by ardchoille
Pakistan? I'll remember not to buy from them. I'd rather give my business to a real kilt maker rather than a sweat shop. Thanks for the heads up
I don't know about you but I push my kilt makers very hard. Just ask Steve, Pete & Robert. If there is not their blood, sweat and tears on my kilt I'm not happy.
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24th September 07, 07:31 PM
#8
Originally Posted by ardchoille
Pakistan? I'll remember not to buy from them. I'd rather give my business to a real kilt maker rather than a sweat shop. Thanks for the heads up
That's just rude.
Is everything in Pakistan produced by 8 year olds? Sure, some things are. But everything? I've actually thought about setting up a kilt manufactory, doing ONLY hand-sewn, made to measure kilts, in Central Asia. I was thinking of using micro-credits to allow home-based artisans to buy the equipment and get up to speed on the ins and outs of sewing kilts.
Would that be a sweatshop?
Crikey. It's just so easy to judge, you know, "those people" as a lump. You know what I mean: "they" are all "that way." Like the Scots that go to Poland to get stupid-drunk and flash their insecurities at Poles. You know, that's just how the Scots are.
I've dealt with Jerry Lee of What Price Glory on a kilt I had to exchange three times (my own dang fault, in all honesty). Ron's right---he's a retired Colonel, US Army, and I found him to be the very definition of "an officer and a gentleman." I would be very reluctant to cast aspersions on him about running a sweatshop. Hey, maybe he is---I haven't seen the facility.
But if someone can live pretty well in Lahore on $70 a month, and they know how to make kilts, and they can turn out four standard kilts a month, and you pay them $20 per kilt, that's not a sweat shop.
I've lived in Central Asia--not in Pakistan, I'll admit, but in Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. Just because they can produce something cheaply does NOT mean that it's under sweatshop conditions. I was living "on the economy" and spending about $500 a month, and living like a king, eating out three or four times a week and dancing with my lady (now my wife) and basically living like a king.
There's this Russian couple I know, that live in Kyrgyzstan. After the Soviet Union fell, a lot of their friends moved to St. Petersburg (nee Leningrad, nee Petrograd, etc.). Recently Volodya and Tatiana went to visit their friends in St. Pete. They live pretty much at the same level that their friends do, and the daily prices of goods was about the same (comparing the Kyrgyz Som to the Russian Ruble). Thing is, a ruble will got a lot more dollar than a som will, and for a while Volodya had a real complex about HOW LITTLE MONEY HE MADE. Natalia calmed him down by pointing out that, if the calculations were in dollars, the people in St. Petersburg were paying about three times as much for the things they bought as Natalia and Volodya were.
If you have questions about the conditions under which Jerry's merchandise is produced, it would be only civil to contact him and ask if he has, you know, like pictures and things he could share.
Sometimes the way we talk about Pakistanis reminds me of the way the English used to talk about the Irish.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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19th September 07, 03:58 PM
#9
Hi Brian,
I should of expected to find you here. :^) Hope all's well. Yeah, it
stunk missing Culloden, but it sucked more that my dog/best friend
died. It just goes to show that you never know what's going to happen.
I'm trying to find another source, cheaper, for repro Government sett
wool for my Rev War Highland unit. $70-$100 a yard is absolutely
unacceptable for anything but a once-in-a-lifetime wool kilt purchase.
As much as I hate the thought of ordering tartan from anywhere but
Scotland, the only way it can be justified for hobby/reenacting purposes
is ordering from Pakistan. Maybe in the next year the government will
decide to pay off the debt and reverse the slide of the dollar, but somehow
I doubt that's going to happen.
Anyway, What Price Glory is a company that sells repro WWI and WWII
stuff, much of it made in Pakistan. Would be nice to know their source
so I can see about getting something done in a period shade and pattern.
Take care,
Alex
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19th September 07, 04:04 PM
#10
I don't have one of their kilts but a friend from college had one of their Black Watch kilts. If it is a Pakistan made product, I'm impressed. It was a very nice kilt.
Actually, I was under the impression that their tartan materials were from Australia and that the kilts were constructed in California. I could be wrong.
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