Appropriate Footwear

**Glamrockdj** · 12th July 08, 06:48 AM

I'm coming over to America in September to New Hampshire and I'm looking for some appropiate footwear to go with my Jacobite outfit.

I've found some decent Civil War Brogans which would do the job as they're similar in style to what the Jacobites wore but I was just wondering if you guys had any other ideas?

A lot of us over here tend to just cover up our boots or shoes with tartan which actually looks a lot better than it sounds

**hospitaller** · 12th July 08, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Glamrockdj

A lot of us over here tend to just cover up our boots or shoes with tartan which actually looks a lot better than it sounds

Interesting, sort of like tartan spats?

**Nighthawk** · 12th July 08, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by hospitaller

Interesting, sort of like tartan spats?

That was my thought! It's interesting. I know a lot of the Jacobites refused to wear shoes, and just wore tartan tied around their legs. I'm in a Renaissance Highlander living history group, and that has been the source of some debate. We started out going barefoot, but in the middle of a Colorado summer, that turned out to be rather impractical.

So GlamrockDJ, I'd be really interested to see any pictures you may have.

**Jack Daw** · 12th July 08, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

That was my thought! It's interesting. I know a lot of the Jacobites refused to wear shoes, and just wore tartan tied around their legs. I'm in a Renaissance Highlander living history group, and that has been the source of some debate. We started out going barefoot, but in the middle of a Colorado summer, that turned out to be rather impractical.

So GlamrockDJ, I'd be really interested to see any pictures you may have.

Yes, the moggans. I've worn them, but with footwear that are similar to moccasins.

**JS Sanders** · 12th July 08, 02:10 PM

Trying doing a search on these forums (shouldn't it be fora?) for the Gaelic word 'cadadh'.

Slainte yall,
steve

**hospitaller** · 12th July 08, 07:00 PM

Are you talking about something like this? (found it on the Australian 42RHRA reenactor's website):

**DWFII** · 13th July 08, 08:05 AM

Well, I'm not an expert (although I do have some specialized knowledge about shoes and shoemaking) but it seems to me that there is a deep contradiction...maybe even a dissonance when it comes to the subject of proper highland wear for a given period.

As I understand it the earliest kilts may date back no further than the late 16th century...which may make the wearing of the ghillie brogue forerunners with a kilt (even a great kilt) something of an anachronism, if not pure fancy.

But more to the point of "Jacobite"...if the term Jacobite is meant to refer to the risings of the early and middle 18th century (including Culloden), then the most likely footwear would indeed be a buckle shoe. The buckle shoe is nearly THE man's shoe from the mid 18th to the early 19th century.

A Civil War brogue would again be an anachronism but a Revolutionary War shoe would not.

So there's another 2¢ for the kitty...

PS...just as an aside there is literally no (zero) evidence (and quite a bit to the contrary) for anything resembling a heel on any shoe (including women's shoes) prior to the late 16th century.

**macneighill** · 13th July 08, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by DWFII

A Civil War brogue would again be an anachronism but a Revolutionary War shoe would not.

Being a Civil War reenactor, I have a few different pairs of period shoes (replicas) and, they really don't fit the "Jacobite" era. Mostly what I have are some type of oxford. These are what Officers mostly wore. The enlistedmen usually wore brogans. So, I would have to agree on the colonial era buckle shoe.

**Finn** · 13th July 08, 08:22 AM

I'm with DWFII on the historical aspect.
The brogans look good and should blend well with the outfit (with the above-pictured tartan wrap).
Here is something more accurate:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...7a1dad5423201a
I've done business with them and have found them reputable.

**Glamrockdj** · 14th July 08, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Finn

I'm with DWFII on the historical aspect.
The brogans look good and should blend well with the outfit (with the above-pictured tartan wrap).
Here is something more accurate:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...7a1dad5423201a
I've done business with them and have found them reputable.

They are very nice Finn, thanks for that, I may well order a pair of these and have them delivered to my mother inlaw's in New Hampshire, also thanks for all the help and comments, I'm learning something ne every day.