X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 52

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    22nd June 08
    Location
    Fort Campbell, KY
    Posts
    795
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Military 'complaints' about my balmoral

    Several weeks ago bought a very nice WWI Canadian Khaki Balmoral from www.glengarryhats.com and I am loving it.

    Thing is, yesterday it was cloudy, slightly drizzy and cool, so I thought I would wear it, so I did.

    Went to work with it, people loved it, it completes the look, now I understand why Panache and Glen love theirs so much.

    Anyway, after work wife asked me to stop by the store and get some supplies so I did, and while there, a couple of military looking guys approached me to talk about the kilt and the look (one of them is a UK owner).

    Then the conversation switched to how they were Army Rangers (there is a NG depot right across the store which is currently deployed to the sandbox) and they were wondering if I was one as well, and if not why was I wearing 'their beret'.

    That took me by surprise because, the color of my balmoral is darker than the Ranger beret, my balmoral has a wool pompom, and I was also wearing my Clan badge in it.

    So after telling them all of the above, they relented for a bit, all friendly but then they left me with this odd send-off:

    'Be careful wearing that beret, it may get you in trouble'

    I mean...c'mon...really?
    Hector Rojas Young | Chilean-Scot

    operor non sentio mihi , quinymo agnosco mihi

    Clan Young - We Ride!!

  2. #2
    Join Date
    20th May 07
    Location
    Madison, WI
    Posts
    2,200
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by hospitaller View Post
    ...but then they left me with this odd send-off:
    'Be careful wearing that beret, it may get you in trouble'...
    All I've got to say to that is....
    [B][U]Jay[/U][/B]
    [B]Clan Rose[/B]-[SIZE="2"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]Constant and True[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="1"][I]"I cut a stout blackthorn to banish ghosts and goblins; In a brand new pair of brogues to ramble o'er the bogs and frighten all the dogs " - D. K. Gavan[/I][/SIZE]

  3. #3
    Join Date
    7th April 05
    Location
    Frederick, Maryland, USA
    Posts
    5,502
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't believe you'll get in any trouble; however, you will probably have a repeat of what happened to you. Military folks are fairly possessive of their symbols and the Ranger beret is one of those.

    From a distance, your balmoral may be confused for a Ranger beret, and Rangers may approach you, thinking you are one of them. So, be prepared to explain.
    We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb

  4. #4
    Join Date
    8th May 08
    Location
    Jacksonville, FL
    Posts
    2,162
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think they ought to take more pride in their ranger beret, since they earned it... then take notice that it is not the same hat.
    Airman. Piper. Scholar. - Avatar: MacGregor Tartan
    “KILT, n. A costume sometimes worn by Scotchmen in America and Americans in Scotland.” - Ambrose Gwinett Bierce
    www.melbournepipesanddrums.com

  5. #5
    Join Date
    22nd June 08
    Location
    Fort Campbell, KY
    Posts
    795
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by georgeblack7 View Post
    I think they ought to take more pride in their ranger beret, since they earned it... then take notice that it is not the same hat.
    Apparently they thought I had hand sewn the wool pompom on top of it, but still, the color is darker so it still caught me by surprise.
    Hector Rojas Young | Chilean-Scot

    operor non sentio mihi , quinymo agnosco mihi

    Clan Young - We Ride!!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    22nd March 07
    Location
    In Doors
    Posts
    897
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Or maybe they knew the difference, and were just screwing with with the "odd looking" guy, and keeping you off balance by refering to how your head dress looked like theirs.

    Frank

  7. #7
    Join Date
    1st September 08
    Location
    The Woodlands, Texas
    Posts
    19
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Being former active military service myownself, USMC...I can say that someone would run the risk of being acosted while wearing an item of clothing resembling an elite armed forces article. Understand the elites have an informal motto, "If you didn't earn it, you can't wear it."

    Do the Army Rangers ever wear a Balmoral on ocassion? If so there may be a conflict.

    Just sayin'..... But I've had my eye on the black'un.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    29th November 07
    Location
    Joplin, MO, Stationed in VA
    Posts
    243
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well, here's my two cents worth. It's been my experience after almost 18 years in the Army (and still going) that the people who question someone's attire HAVEN'T been there/ done that. If you were in uniform, I would understand. But to be standing in obvious civilian attire, that was uncalled for. The two Soldiers you spoke to were probably either new or haven't been Rangers very long. And they either haven't been "down range" yet, or they're getting ready to go for the first time. It's the "I'm a bad *** Ranger" attitude. Real Rangers and SF operators like the guys I work with are quiet professionals. They're very good at what they do, they know they're good, and don't need to show off. You ran into what we call "PX Rangers". Guys who go and buy all the pretty stuff to put on their uniforms whether they earned it or not. Sorry for the rant, but unprofessional Soldiers really chaps by butt.

  9. #9
    macwilkin is offline
    Retired Forum Moderator
    Forum Historian

    Join Date
    22nd June 04
    Posts
    9,938
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Master K9 View Post
    Being former active military service myownself, USMC...I can say that someone would run the risk of being acosted while wearing an item of clothing resembling an elite armed forces article. Understand the elites have an informal motto, "If you didn't earn it, you can't wear it."

    Do the Army Rangers ever wear a Balmoral on ocassion? If so there may be a conflict.

    Just sayin'..... But I've had my eye on the black'un.
    One account says that after the US Rangers trained with their British Commando counterparts at the Commando school at Achnacarry, Scotland, the Rangers were authorized to wear the British Commando Green Beret with a "flash" or square of Cameron of Erracht tartan (Achnacarry is Cameron country) --- but it was never approved by the higher-ups.

    Regards,

    Todd

  10. #10
    Join Date
    29th March 07
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    771
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by georgeblack7 View Post
    I think they ought to take more pride in their ranger beret, since they earned it... then take notice that it is not the same hat.
    word to the wise, if you call anyone military's headdress in the Uk a "hat" you will probably start a fight espec if they are RM or PARA.

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Balmoral Bow Help
    By ChattanCat in forum DIY Showroom
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 8th November 08, 09:28 AM
  2. balmoral
    By haxtonhouse in forum How to Accessorize your Kilt
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 12th January 08, 09:03 PM
  3. balmoral
    By mcvarmit in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 58
    Last Post: 26th June 07, 07:15 PM
  4. How does one tie a Balmoral bow?
    By Scott Gilmore in forum General Kilt Talk
    Replies: 33
    Last Post: 12th October 06, 08:07 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0