campbell dress

[ardchoille33]

Can someone show me pics of the campbell dress tartan. Will be ordering, wondering what it looks like

[ForresterModern]

Here is Scotweb's tartan page for both dress Campbell and Ancient dress Campbell:

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Camp...hterm=campbell

[The Barry]

I'm pretty sure that I am quoting from the Campbell clan chief when I say:

THERE IS NO DRESS CAMPBELL [TARTAN]--repeat! repeat! repeat!

This is an excerpt from a letter that the duke wrote to the Campbell Clan Society of USA.

[Monkey@Arms]

Well clearly there is such a tartan, I think what you mean to say is that it is not one of the official tartans designated by the Duke of Argyll (the chieftain of Clan Campbell).

Best regards,

Jake

[JSFMACLJR]

Well clearly there is such a tartan, I think what you mean to say is that it is not one of the official tartans designated by the Duke of Argyll (the chieftain of Clan Campbell).

Best regards,

Jake

The Duke of Argyll is a chief, actually, not a chieftain.

[Galician]

What's the difference?

[JSFMACLJR]

What's the difference?

A chieftain is the head of a family that has branched off from the main chiefly family. They share a common ancestor, but descend through, usually, brothers. Maclean of Ardgour, or Maclean of Dochgarroch, for examples, are MacLean chieftains who descend along different lines from Gillean of the Battleaxe ( I believe ).

I could be wrong, but I believe that the Clan Campbell has no cheiftains, per se. Campbell of Lochnell would certainly be one, if the Campbells used this title in the traditional sense.

Chieftains wear two eagle feathers in their bonnets, while a chief wears three.

[Monkey@Arms]

The Duke of Argyll is a chief, actually, not a chieftain.

Right you are. My bad.

Best regards,

Jake

[Fedgunner]

I'm pretty sure that I am quoting from the Campbell clan chief when I say:



This is an excerpt from a letter that the duke wrote to the Campbell Clan Society of USA.

Vurra true.

[JSFMACLJR]

You Campbells out there might be interested in the whole of the letter by the late 12th Duke of Argyll, which is available on the Clan Campbell Society webpage. I hope they do not mind me quoting it here:

From the website-
"There is only one authority on the correct tartan or tartans of a clan: the chief of that clan. Not even the Scottish Tartans Society or the Lord Lyon King of Arms claim such authority--they are purely archivists of tartan history, which is, at best, a confused and confusing field.

Here is how our late chief, The 12th Duke of Argyll, and re-affirmed by our current Chief, The 13th Duke of Argyll, MacCailein Mor, summed up the official position on Campbell tartans consistently declared for well over one hundred years by successive Chiefs of Clan Campbell:



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"...the only tartans which I recognize are, firstly, the one you see me and my wife wearing, which goes under various names, such as ordinary Campbell, Ancient Campbell, etc., and all members of our clan who are not specifically identified with [the Houses of Breadalbane, Cawdor [or] Loudoun are entitled to wear it.
Let me get rid, once and for all, of the thought that there is a 'Campbell of Argyll' [tartan]. While it is true that the Sixth Duke [of Argyll] introduced a white line to his plain Campbell tartan to differentiate himself from the rest of the Campbells, (he being the chief and entitled to do so), he was the only member of the family so to do and the rest of the family thought he was rather pompous to do it.

Campbell of Breadalbane--fine [to wear].

Campbell of Cawdor--fine.

Campbell of Loudoun--fine.

Campbell of Glenlyon--I have never heard of it.

Campbell of Loch Awe-this is plain ridiculous, as we are all Campbells of Loch Awe originally. - Apart from anything else, I have never heard of a Campbell of Loch Awe tartan, nor do I wish to do so.

THERE IS NO DRESS CAMPBELL [TARTAN]--repeat! repeat! repeat!

There is NO HUNTING CAMPBELL.

There is NO CAMPRELL RED.

There is NO CAMPBELL - SIMPSON.

There are no Campbell cheques, other than commercial ones...

If I feel strongly about anything and would like it inscribed on my tombstone, there might be a few lines such as 'All Campbells with the exception of the three principal septs [the Houses of Breadalbane, Cawdor and Loudoun] should wear plain undifferentiated Campbell for evermore and not get confused by peddlers of this [other] material that comes under all sorts of guises.



Yours ever,


Your Kinsman and Chief,

Argyll"
[From a letter to William A. Mitchell. late Clan Campbell Society U.S.A. genealogist]