2 Odd questions

**Shanntarra** · 30th April 09, 08:01 AM

My rogue wants me to ask two intresting questions to all of you about kilt etiquette.

1) What is the proper way to wear a kilt on a motor cycle? It has been done and seen done but we are not sure how it is done.

2) How uncooth would it be to wear a pink kilt for the Susan B Kolman Walk? I can get my hands on light pink/magenta denim or twill easily (not many people want it) . If his current X kilt works out he wants to wear one for the walk but not sure if it would be uncooth.

-Aside: I'm also trying to get him to wear it highland weekend as part of his 'pink pirate/ flamingo' ren faire costume. And yes there is a story be hind that. And it is a manly one.

**jrmiller** · 30th April 09, 08:11 AM

Show him this which I quote from wikipedia.com:

"In Western culture, the practice of assigning pink to an individual gender began in the 1920s.[5] From then until the 1940s, pink was considered appropriate for boys because being related to red it was the more masculine and decided color, while blue was considered appropriate for girls because it was the more delicate and dainty color, or related to the Virgin Mary.[6][7][8] Since the 1940s, the societal norm apparently inverted so that pink became appropriate for girls and blue appropriate for boys, a practice that has continued into the 21st century.[9]"

If you would like to read more, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink

As you can see, Pink is a manly color, just like kilts (subset of skirts) are also manly. It's only lately everything has been turned upside down.

**thescot** · 30th April 09, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by jrmiller

. . .As you can see, Pink is a manly color, just like kilts (subset of skirts) are also manly. It's only lately everything has been turned upside down.

Well, if you say so. I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning because this ain't the 1920s. Fashions change. But then, for a walk it might be OK. My only concern is that it might tend to reinforce the kilts-are-skirts arguments of some of the less well informed element.

But then we could also make a case for the fact that men used to wear make up, silk hose, high heels, and have their hair piled high by beauticians. But I dont' know that it would be considered manly these days. (Check out the classic painting of the Sun King by Hyacinthe Rigard at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lo..._of_France.jpg. That rig would get you beat up in my neighborhood!) Just because it used to be done doesn't make it OK these days.

Of course, in the end, it's just clothing. So do whatever you want.

**ali8780** · 30th April 09, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by jrmiller

Show him this which I quote from wikipedia.com:

"In Western culture, the practice of assigning pink to an individual gender began in the 1920s.[5] From then until the 1940s, pink was considered appropriate for boys because being related to red it was the more masculine and decided color, while blue was considered appropriate for girls because it was the more delicate and dainty color, or related to the Virgin Mary.[6][7][8] Since the 1940s, the societal norm apparently inverted so that pink became appropriate for girls and blue appropriate for boys, a practice that has continued into the 21st century.[9]"

If you would like to read more, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink

As you can see, Pink is a manly color, just like kilts (subset of skirts) are also manly. It's only lately everything has been turned upside down.

Crazy 20th century.

**Shanntarra** · 30th April 09, 08:16 AM

He wore his wool kilt for the walk last year, and got alot of attention. I'm just curious would it seem inulting to the kilted community if he did it? Would it insult the cancer survivors if he did it? Personaly it take a real man to wear a kilt, and even stronger personality and self confidence to pull of a pink one at that.

**irishrob** · 30th April 09, 08:21 AM

For pink search on Penache and "pink kilt"...as for kilts on motorcycles the search feature is also your friend...however, I believe that the concensus is that the kilt is not proper PPE for bike riding, I know the "trunk" on my Goldwing is perfect for carrying a kilt for non-riding time.

Rob

**Barry** · 30th April 09, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Shanntarra

He wore his wool kilt for the walk last year, and got alot of attention. I'm just curious would it seem inulting to the kilted community if he did it? Would it insult the cancer survivors if he did it? Personaly it take a real man to wear a kilt, and even stronger personality and self confidence to pull of a pink one at that.

IMHO we spend too much time worrying about insulting various people these days. Some people will take offence at anything; others are more laid back. If your intentions are honorable then go ahead.

The cancer survivors that I know and have known are just so jolly pleased to be alive, and anyone batting on their side is welcomed.

For myself I would love to see a chap in a pink kilt. Get yer man to go for it and let's see some snaps of the outing

Welcome to X Marks BTW

**Foosinho** · 30th April 09, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Shanntarra

I'm just curious would it seem inulting to the kilted community if he [wore a pink kilt]?

I won't presume to speak for the "kilted community", but I think pink clothing on men can look terrific. I say rock on. It means something to him, it would mean something to the Breast Cancer community - frankly, that stuff is way more important than what anybody else thinks. If he's got the self-confidence to do it, good for him.

As for the motorcycling with a kilt - personally, I wouldn't, but that's because I was an "All The Gear All The Time" (ATGATT) kind of guy before I gave up riding. If I'm not wearing helmet, eyepro, earpro, jacket, gloves, pants, and boots, I'm not getting on. That was my personal decision. So I have no suggestions on how to go about wearing a kilt on one successfully. Hell, I've barely figured out how to sit down (only had my kilt since last weekend).

**TNKiltedWolf** · 30th April 09, 11:14 AM

First off, kudos to you two for participating in the Walk. The Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer awareness walks (http://ww5.komen.org/) are a blast to participate in, and definitely help the community. I say if he's okay with wearing it, go for it! Having participated before I know the people there will appreciate anything you do to help support and motivate them; especially if it means wearing pink!

As for the motorcycle, I have no experience, but am thinking it's not a good idea. Road rash.....<shudder>

Aaron

**Shanntarra** · 30th April 09, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by TNKiltedWolf

First off, kudos to you two for participating in the Walk. The Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer awareness walks (http://ww5.komen.org/) are a blast to participate in, and definitely help the community. I say if he's okay with wearing it, go for it! Having participated before I know the people there will appreciate anything you do to help support and motivate them; especially if it means wearing pink!

As for the motorcycle, I have no experience, but am thinking it's not a good idea. Road rash.....<shudder>

Aaron

He has the self confidence to wear it that is for sure. We keep getting comments that not many people are willing to wear pink, but if it is for such a good cause.... why not?

I don't wear a skirt when I ride my 50 cc scooter. I don't care if I'm going 20mph I wear all my gear helmet to boots to gloves. He does too but we did see some one ,on a harley, ride to a celtic festival. We aren't going to do it but just a question that needed answer. That answer is don't it's not safe, but if you do prepare for road rash.