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27th July 10, 02:24 PM
#1
Approximate Braveheart Tartan
My question to the rabble is: what tartan readily available from the various mills most closely approximates the Braveheart tartan worn by Mel Gibson in the movie? I am looking for a tartan in which all of the colors are muted, and would not make me look like an overstuffed barcalounger from 1969.
Some time ago, back in 2007, our own Rocky of USA Kilts tracked down the Braveheart Tartan worn by Mel Gibson in the movie. He also reported that the tartan was of a loose weave, and was not suitable for a stitched, or tailored kilt. The original thread is here: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...t-kilts-28432/
I am looking for suggestions as to a substitute from which a tailored kilt could be made. What say you all?
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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27th July 10, 02:39 PM
#2
Braveheart tartan
Our own McClef has a kilt in this tartan...
See thread: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...veheart-43505/
Woven by Islay Woollen Mill.
If you're looking for something in earthtones, you might try Brodie Hunting Weathered (Locharron, 16 oz.) or Buchanan Hunting Muted (Marton Mills, 16 oz.).
Brodie Hunting Weathered:

Buchanan Hunting Muted:
Last edited by ShaunMaxwell; 27th July 10 at 03:04 PM.
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27th July 10, 03:19 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell
Thanks for the reminder Shaun - I enjoyed reliving the thread!
And I still enjoy wearing the tartan!
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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27th July 10, 07:30 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by McClef
Thanks for the reminder Shaun - I enjoyed reliving the thread!
And I still enjoy wearing the tartan! 
Sir Trefor--do you recall the name of the Ebay store or seller--that particular auction obviously ended ages ago, and the link doesn't give any information by which I could locate the seller on Ebay. Fantastic kilt, by the way...I'm quite jealous. Regards,...
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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28th July 10, 12:06 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle
Sir Trefor--do you recall the name of the Ebay store or seller--that particular auction obviously ended ages ago, and the link doesn't give any information by which I could locate the seller on Ebay. Fantastic kilt, by the way...I'm quite jealous. Regards,...
Forgive me for jumping in Trefor.
Tartanweb's ebay outlet the Scottish Tartan Store did the Braveheart (It was Bobilishious at the time). I haven't seen anything from them on ebay for ages though.
You could Contact them and ask about the Braveheart kilt.
I have three kilts from them, although Braveheart isn't one of them. I have two 8yd x 13oz from their ebay store, a Johnstone Modern of fabric from Strathmore Mills, a Randonnée Bretonne [Brittany Walking], fabric from Marton Mills. That's mainly browns too, ( pictures page 2 here ) and one custom weave bought through the Tartanweb site, a Bruce Hunting 8yd x 16oz from DC Dalgliesh.
All the Kilts were superb value, excellent quality and the company are great to do business with. I sincerely recommend them.
X Marker Forrester Modern also has a Braveheart Kilt from these chaps.
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28th July 10, 02:36 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle
Sir Trefor--do you recall the name of the Ebay store or seller--that particular auction obviously ended ages ago, and the link doesn't give any information by which I could locate the seller on Ebay. Fantastic kilt, by the way...I'm quite jealous. Regards,...
I will forgive English Bloke upon receipt of a pint! 
But he is right, Bobilishious has not had auctions for some time. It could be that his sources of supply dried up and that once he had sold what he had access to, getting new material woven became uneconomic.
He is currently only active as a buyer as his feedback at http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...TRK:MEFSX:FDBK shows.
You could try the contact member button at http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/bobilishious and place an enquiry as to whether he hopes or plans to start selling again.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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27th July 10, 07:08 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell
Our own McClef has a kilt in this tartan...
See thread: http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...veheart-43505/
Woven by Islay Woollen Mill.
If you're looking for something in earthtones, you might try Brodie Hunting Weathered (Locharron, 16 oz.) or Buchanan Hunting Muted (Marton Mills, 16 oz.).
Brodie Hunting Weathered:
Buchanan Hunting Muted:

Both very good suggestions. They are both very much in the running. Thank you!
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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27th July 10, 02:43 PM
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I remember a few months ago Scotweb added the actual tartans from the movie Braveheart and Rob Roy. I popped in "braveheart" in the tartan search and got this
http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Brav...erm=braveheart
As for whether or not this would be suitable for a kilt, give Scotweb a dingle, i've always found them eager to help.
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27th July 10, 07:24 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Manitoban Keith
I remember a few months ago Scotweb added the actual tartans from the movie Braveheart and Rob Roy. I popped in "braveheart" in the tartan search and got this
http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Brav...erm=braveheart
As for whether or not this would be suitable for a kilt, give Scotweb a dingle, i've always found them eager to help.
Good advice. I will call them. I understand your concern about this particular fabric being suitable for a kilt--Scotweb does not list the kilt among its contemplated uses:
"What Nick says about this fabric:
A medium weight tweed, this fabric is made from 100% pure new wool and is made traditionally on the Isle of Islay. Ideal for furnishings and lightweight garments, this top quality fabric is also great for light sports jackets and caps. "
Needs a call to get their view. Will do. Thanks for that.
"Before two notes of the theme were played, Colin knew it was Patrick Mor MacCrimmon's 'Lament for the Children'...Sad seven times--ah, Patrick MacCrimmon of the seven dead sons....'It's a hard tune, that', said old Angus. Hard on the piper; hard on them all; hard on the world." Butcher's Broom, by Neil Gunn, 1994 Walker & Co, NY, p. 397-8.
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27th July 10, 02:51 PM
#10
I know I've seen a few kilts that were tailored from the Islay Woolen Mills Braveheart tartan, but I too have heard that the weave is a bit loose.
I suppose that the Braveheart movie tartan is somehow protected, BUT...
Matt at the STM, for example, can make you a kilt from custom woven tartan (or tweed) for a very reasonable price. It might be worth considering designing a new tartan, using an on-line tartan generator other than that of Scotweb, that has a similar flavor to that of the Braveheart tartan, and go with a kilt in that. You'd have a top-notch kilt, and in a tartan that's one of a kind! Just a thought.
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