Anybody know what this is?

**Tartan Tess** · 18th November 10, 10:39 AM

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Found at the thrift store.a bit broken off behind the lion's tail. Looks like hounds on each side.
Reinad stamped in back. Is it real military?

**lethearen** · 18th November 10, 01:12 PM

It's related to the Order of the Garter. Don't think it's related to military, but rather royalty. But I don't know much other than what wiki tells me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Garter

**macwilkin** · 18th November 10, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by lethearen

It's related to the Order of the Garter. Don't think it's related to military, but rather royalty. But I don't know much other than what wiki tells me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honi_soit_qui_mal_y_pense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Garter

More likely some sort of "sweetheart pin". The Motto, buckle and strap of the Garter appears on the Royal Arms.

T.

**KenB** · 18th November 10, 01:38 PM

It looks like the arms for the British Monarchy.
It is a nice pin. Great find.

**macwilkin** · 18th November 10, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by KenB

It looks like the arms for the British Monarchy.
It is a nice pin. Great find.

it certainly contains the arms, but it's not "The" arms. The heraldic device directly above the "Royal Arms" looks very similar to the Arms of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.

T.

**Lallans** · 18th November 10, 02:59 PM

The surmounting triple crown motif seems strange to me. If I saw it in the wild, I might dismiss it as a decorative mish-mash.

If it's real, please don't send the Luxenbourgian or whatever assassins after me, Sir Arms Bearer- I'm just an ignorant plebe.

**Tartan Tess** · 19th November 10, 03:48 AM

If it helps....top side "heart" shapes have a boat with two sails with crescent moon on half, the other half has a cross and maybe a pistol and rolled parchment ? That's my guess.
The piece is 2 1/4 " by almost 2" wide.
The way it has been worn I would think it went out alot.

**dwmoffatt** · 30th December 10, 03:18 PM

From Wikipedia
Honi soit qui mal y pense" sometimes rendered as "Honi soit quy mal y pense", "Hony soyt qe mal y pense", "Hony soyt ke mal y pense", "Hony soyt qui mal pence" and various other phoneticizations, is the motto of the English chivalric Order of the Garter. In the French Language it is rendered as "Honni soit qui mal y pense" (the modern conjugation of the verb honnir being honni).[1] It is also written at the end of the manuscript Sir Gawain and the Green Knight but it appears to have been a later addition.[2] Its literal translation from Old French is "Shame be to him who thinks evil of it",[3] or more strictly: "Let he who thinks ill there be shamed." It is sometimes re-interpreted as "Evil be to him who evil thinks".[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Garter