MacDonell of Keppoch in WOB Colours?

**BoldHighlander** · 13th December 10, 10:44 AM

I decided to start a fresh thread on the subject so as not to further hijack the thread on tartans based upon military decorations:

Originally Posted by figheadair

Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately needless multiplication is here and running rampant with literally dozens of new tartans this year along, but I gain solace in the thought that the wheel will turn full circle and one day people will see the value of those truly old setts that we can date to the C18th Highlands.

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

I for one do Peter

Having said that, may I ask if you have a sample (photo) of the Macdonell of Keppoch in WOB colours?

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Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

may I ask if you have a sample (photo) of the Macdonell of Keppoch in WOB colours?

Originally Posted by xman

*drooling*

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Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

I for one do Peter

Having said that, may I ask if you have a sample (photo) of the Macdonell of Keppoch in WOB colours?

Originally Posted by figheadair

I assume that you are referring to the standard Keppoch sett. This is an interesting one. Stewart includes it in his Old & Rare but the specimen that he cites is unknown, to me at least. There is a specimen of a very similar sett in the West Highland Museum with two blue lines on the red/green ground as opposed to the one in the Keppoch. I suspect that it is a Wilsons' piece but cannot get to over check it until next month. That said, there is no record of Wilsons weaving the Keppoch but if they did the colours would be the same as those in similar setts such as their: New Bruce (now Drummond/Grant), MacGillivray etc, etc. Here's my weaving of the New Bruce in their shades.

**BoldHighlander** · 13th December 10, 10:46 AM

Thanks Peter, though I'm not sure we're thinking of the same standard Keppoch sett. I'm thinking of #511. Is this also the same one found in Stewart Old & Rare? (forgive me if it is...)
I do recall that in some other thread, some time ago, when I mentioned the MacDonell of Keppoch tartan, you said you preferred it in the Wilsons' colours.

I've noted how similar the Johnston's & the Fort William tartans are (see computer generated images below).

Thank you again for posting that New Bruce sample!

On my list is the desire to one day have a kilt made (as the ol' purse allows) of the Keppoch sett in Wilsons' colours.

tartan #511
Source: W & A K Johnston
Date: 1906
from W & A K Johnston's 1906 publication which states that it was taken from a piece of tartan dyed and woven by the wife of Alexander XVI of Keppoch who was killed at Culloden. Prince Charles was said to have been given a plaid in this tartan which he left at Moy Hall in his rushed escape from there. It was kept by the MacKintosh's. (STA website).

tartan #879
Location: Fort William museum

**M. A. C. Newsome** · 13th December 10, 11:28 AM

Here is the MacDonald of Keppoch from Old & Rare Scottish Tartans (1893) by D. C. Stewart.

Taken from http://resources.scottishtartans.org/index.html

**BoldHighlander** · 13th December 10, 11:30 AM

Thanks Matt for clearing that up

**figheadair** · 29th December 10, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome

Here is the MacDonald of Keppoch from Old & Rare Scottish Tartans (1893) by D. C. Stewart.

Taken from http://resources.scottishtartans.org/index.html

This is another one that, IMHO, Stewat got wrong, this time by copying an incomplete piece of the so called plaid from Culloden.

**figheadair** · 29th December 10, 08:14 AM

The standard Keppoch (as opposed the the O&R one), the piece at the Fort William Museum and the MacDonald of Glencoe are probably all the same thing. Which setting is correct will require further research.

**BoldHighlander** · 29th December 10, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by figheadair

The standard Keppoch (as opposed the the O&R one), the piece at the Fort William Museum and the MacDonald of Glencoe are probably all the same thing. Which setting is correct will require further research.

I always felt that the standard Keppoch (which I wear, in ancient colours) was a copy of the Fort William piece...they being very similar. I didn't realize though that the MacDonald of Glencoe might also be the same. Interesting. I hope further research is possible (& I look forward to it)!

**Hothir Ethelnor** · 13th December 10, 01:21 PM

Are you looking for photos or interested in drumming up some funds for a weave?

**BoldHighlander** · 13th December 10, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor

Are you looking for photos or interested in drumming up some funds for a weave?

BOTH!!!

Right now just the photos....given our financial situation I can't justify another kilt/tartan purchase at this time (perhaps later in the new year).

**BoldHighlander** · 13th December 10, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Hothir Ethelnor

Are you looking for photos or interested in drumming up some funds for a weave?

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

BOTH!!!

Right now just the photos....given our financial situation I can't justify another kilt/tartan purchase at this time (perhaps later in the new year).

Also on my "list" (in no paticular order) is your project, the Keppoch sett in D.C. Dalgliesh Reproduction colours (any photos of it by chance?), as well as Clan Donald in Wilsons', Lochaber in Weathered colours (Lochcarron), & Macdonald of Glencoe in the House of Edgar muted colours.

There's others, but these are the main ones