tie with a prince charlie?

[Tim P]

Normally when going for a prince Charlie look I would go for classic white dress shirt and bow tie.
For a mates 50th this weekend however I want to go for something quite contemporary. Formal smart but not black tie is the spec.
so, brogues black hose and tabs, slate and black kilt, black prince Charlie and waistcoat with a dark grey shirt and tie is what I have in mind as I don't have an Argyll and don't plan to spring for one.

add to that a black hair and chrome sporran and a chrome rampnat lion kilt pin.
Now this is very monochrome I know but that is what I am after.
Question one... is a tie with a prince Charlie ok?
Question two.. too much black and dark grey?

I am prepared for a rethink as I have other options.

Let me know what you reckon...
Tim.

[Tobus]

Question one... is a tie with a prince Charlie ok?

Depends. Are you asking in context of traditional Highland dress? Or simply from a visual perspective? There is technically no rule against it, and it should only matter if you are trying to stay within tradition.

It would be nice to see a picture of you wearing this. It's worth a thousand words, I hear!

I took a photo a while back of me wearing a black necktie with a black mess jacket on (not a PC, but sort of close), and I didn't think it looked half bad. I was told in no uncertain terms that a bowtie is the 'correct' item to wear with it according to tradition, but it's always within your power to bend the rules to suit your situation. If you think it looks good and there are no kilt cops there to contend with, go for it.

[Jordan]

I on one occasion wore a regular tie with a PC jacket and I really disliked the look when i saw photos afterwards. It just doesnt look right visualy the waistcoat is too low cut and with the jacket it looks like your seeing way too much tie.

I think I have a photo somwhere I'll try to get it up for you.

[Jay]

What do you think of a tuxedo with a suit tie?

[Tim P]

What do you think of a tuxedo with a suit tie?

My point exactly, you can see where my caution comes from. I may say hang it and go white shirt black bow tie and be done with it.

another option for me is my RAF Tartan (we were in the air force together), bluegrey hose and so on.

[rondo]

A PC when worn with a 4 in hand looks better with a 5 button waistcoat. But not traditionally correct. Of course I got run off from the traditional forum so just ignore me... like this: http://buyakilt.com/silver-prince-charlie-kilt-outfit
Rondo

[Caddy One]

Not a fan of a tie with the PC....however I believe there are different types of
tuxedo shirt collars Wingtip - Lay Down - Mandarin... I may not have the proper names of the collars...

Maybe the lay down collar might look a little better with the tie....."enuff" said on my part....................

[Lyle1]

A PC when worn with a 4 in hand looks better with a 5 button waistcoat. But not traditionally correct. Of course I got run off from the traditional forum so just ignore me... like this: http://buyakilt.com/silver-prince-charlie-kilt-outfit
Rondo

I was thinking the same thing after seeing the photos earlier in the thread. A long tie, even a ruche tie, simply does not look good with a low cut vest; the prorportin is off, and the tie looks like it is trying to escape! Even with a tux, the people I've seen wearing a four-in-hand-tie were wearing a five or more button vest with it.

[KenB]

A grey(silver) bow tie can work very well, IMHO.

[chrisupyonder]

A grey(silver) bow tie can work very well, IMHO.

You beat me to it. I agree. First thing that sprang to mind.

Chris.