PLS Help to define the coat of arms on the ring.

**k1111** · 3rd April 14, 12:51 PM

Help to define the coat of arms on the ring.
The coat of arms is engraved on a stone from amethyst. As I think initially a stone was used as the press.
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**Father Bill** · 3rd April 14, 01:49 PM

Can't help with the coat of arms, but welcome to the "Great Rabble!"

**ASinclair** · 3rd April 14, 02:01 PM

Hello, k1111!

If you have not done so already, you may want to introduce yourself in the Newbie forum. Sorry I can't help with your coat of arms question.

**Chas** · 3rd April 14, 02:03 PM

Hello k1111,

The arms look Polish or possibly Lithuanian (certainly eastern European). Do you have a name to go with the ring? I have a Polish Armorial and would be easier to look up the name rather than look through 10,000 individual graphics.

**k1111** · 3rd April 14, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Chas

Hello k1111,

The arms look Polish or possibly Lithuanian (certainly eastern European). Do you have a name to go with the ring? I have a Polish Armorial and would be easier to look up the name rather than look through 10,000 individual graphics.

As I know this ring arrived from Germany. ring is new maybe 50-70 years old. without any stamp

**auld argonian** · 4th April 14, 06:08 AM

Not an authority but consider the possibility that it doesn't necessarily have any affiliation and could be a pastiche…something done by a designer that looks like a legitimate coat of arms but has been made up just for the jewelry. I'm thinking that because of the chess pieces…seems unlikely that a traditional COA would have chess pieces as an element.

Best

AA

**EagleJCS** · 4th April 14, 08:58 AM

You might also consider flipping the image to do your comparisons. Sometimes a coat of arms (or just the crest) on a ring would have been engraved in the reverse so that when the ring is pressed into sealing wax the correct/normal image of the arms/crest is produced.

For example, there was a coat of arms found on a bridge (if I recall correctly - I can't find the story right now) a few years back that was a puzzle to the Court of Lord Lyon until one of the staff saw the image in a mirror, and it became immediately obvious that it was a Scott variant (the chief's CoA with additional elements).